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Does Oracle really want to get rid of Sun's hardware?
Marketwatch ^ | Jun 4, 2009, 3:09 a.m. EST | Therese Poletti

Posted on 06/04/2009 12:07:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Remember the line from the famous Clairol commercial? Does she or doesn't she? Only her hairdresser knows for sure.

That popped into my head while I was listening to Oracle Corp.

Chief Executive Larry Ellison at this week's Java One conference, a geek-fest for software developers who use the Java programming language. And no, I was not wondering if the famously egotistical 64-year-old tech icon -- who looks younger than his years -- has had any work done, or if he colors his hair.

Ellison's comments that Oracle might develop software for stripped-down netbooks fueled speculation the software giant might actually make the hardware as well.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech; netbooks
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1 posted on 06/04/2009 12:07:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

Oracle making netbooks....?


2 posted on 06/04/2009 12:10:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“if he colors his hair”

if!???

when a 64 year old guy has no gray, it’s no longer a question of if...


3 posted on 06/04/2009 12:10:40 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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And what about JAVA?

And Open Office.?


4 posted on 06/04/2009 12:11:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

5 posted on 06/04/2009 12:12:27 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Dropping Links:

JavaOne Today

6 posted on 06/04/2009 12:13:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Java and OpenOffice are the reasons to acquire Sun long-term.

Short-term, Sun’s hardware is what is responsible for Oracle being a world-class RMBMS - and to protect their market, Oracle has to make sure that the hardware of Sun isn’t bought up by some competitor, like IBM, who would and could buy Sun purely for the Java and OpenOffice assets.

With work (a lot of work), Linux or one of the “free” Unix implementations could become the equal of Solaris, but that’s years and years into the future.


7 posted on 06/04/2009 12:17:26 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

will that be before or after the Governator forces him to move his company to Texas?


8 posted on 06/04/2009 12:18:28 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think Oracle stated from the beginning of this purchase they were going to use the Sun hardware. This is actually the first story I’ve read that says otherwise.


9 posted on 06/04/2009 12:41:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gitmo detainees to Alcatraz!)
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To: ShadowAce
Just downloaded and fired this up...very small:

MilaX (formerly Damn Small Solaris)

Nice looking....

10 posted on 06/04/2009 12:42:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Does Java or OpenOffice actually generate revenue for Sun’s Oracle?


11 posted on 06/04/2009 12:45:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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RE: MilanX...uses Netsurf...which is new to me.

NetSurf is a multi-platform web browser for RISC OS and UNIX-like platforms, including Linux,

12 posted on 06/04/2009 12:51:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Revolting cat!
I would imagine the Oracle internal strategists are trying to figure that out at this very moment.
13 posted on 06/04/2009 12:53:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Could be a swipe at Google’s Android OS.


14 posted on 06/04/2009 12:54:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (USM is Gator Bait! (Congrats to U-Dub!))
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To: dfwgator

Things are getting interesting...didn’t Sun have some small processor designs?


15 posted on 06/04/2009 1:24:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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Ellison Insists Sun's Sparc Still Has a Future

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May 13, 2009

by Brenon Daly

With Oracle (ORCL) likely just two months or so away from closing its $7.4bn acquisition of Sun Microsystems (JAVA), speculation is now picking up about what parts of Sun’s technology portfolio will be dropped. (And make no mistake, cost-cutting is a major driver of this deal. Oracle has pledged to wring at least $1.5bn of operating profit from Sun in the first year that it owns the company.) But Oracle is currently working hard to counter suggestions that it won’t take on Sun’s core hardware business, and in particular, that it will give up on Sparc processor development. That’s not the case, CEO Larry Ellison insists. In fact, Oracle will increase investment in Sparc, Ellison says.

16 posted on 06/04/2009 1:30:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: NVDave

See #10.


17 posted on 06/04/2009 1:31:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As I said — years and years of work to become what Solaris is.

Look at the threading, scheduling, resource management inside Solaris for SMP machines with 8 or more CPU’s. Sun sells servers up to 64 CPU’s and 256GB of core.

Everyone thinks it is easy to make an operating system.

It is today - for one CPU. For two isn’t easy stuff to master and do well - it took Linux/*BSD several years after dual-CPU PC’s became common to get to where SunOS/Solaris was in 1994 or so.

Getting to the point of supporting 64 CPU’s, with scalable results? That’s still way down the road for Linux/*BSD.

Getting the availability/reliability/failure containment features of Solaris in any Linux-like distro? Even more years away.

There are Linux advocates out there, trying to show that Oracle on Linux is faster for some big number of users or big number of queries. Typically, these benchmarks fail in that they’re not a true apples:apples comparison, often due to differences in the storage architectures (eg, SCSI vs. SATA, or local SATA vs. network attached storage, etc) and so on. In some of them, I’ve seen them talk about having a power glitch or some other problem that takes down the RDMBS or whole machine — and when they come back up, the Oracle running on Solaris is A-OK, and the Linux implementations have drives out of sync, database transactions missing, etc. And the Linux advocates just wave these results off.

In a database environment, the integrity of the data is paramount - speed is second.

For Oracle as a RDBMS company, they’re dependent upon these features existing for their high-end DBMS customers, so if Sun and Solaris just faded away into the sunset, Oracle would be screwed.


18 posted on 06/04/2009 3:04:49 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Nowadays ... it's her hairdresser and Google. A quick search of images for Larry Ellison shows the following.

First, from the year 2005 comes this image:

Then, from the year 2007, comes these two images:


And now from the year 2009 we have these two images:

Sure looks to me like Larry has been coloring his hair.

19 posted on 06/04/2009 3:32:45 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: ThePythonicCow

And the forest has been reseeded.


20 posted on 06/04/2009 3:42:47 PM PDT by Rev DMV
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