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Mountain lion wipes out farm's petting zoo (AZ)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | July 5, 2009 | Tim Steller

Posted on 07/05/2009 12:02:47 PM PDT by jazusamo

At first Stewart Loew was excited by the sight: a mountain lion on the family's farm near Amado.

In 40 years on the Agua Linda Farm, Loew said this was first large cat he had seen when it appeared in the donkey pen about a month ago.

But soon, his animals started to turn up mauled or dead. First there were four sheep. Then, on June 15, an awful sight: 16 pygmy and nubian goats — all the mammals in the farm's petting zoo — were killed. Only the geese were spared.

Loew and his wife, Laurel, who run the all-natural, community-supported farm, faced a tough choice: Try to kill the wild cat or put their animals and possibly their farm's visitors — including many children — at some risk.

"We were really conflicted," Stewart Loew said.

But when they thought about it, there was no choice. They had a garlic and onion festival coming up the next weekend at the farm, and people would be walking in the dark through areas where the mountain lion was making regular kills.

They called a family acquaintance who is a mountain lion hunter and got a "depredation permit" from Arizona Game and Fish — a permit to kill an animal that has been eating people's livestock.

When the hunter went out with his dogs, they didn't see it, but then Loew spotted the lion out of the corner of his eye. It was lounging in the farm's yard.

"We disturbed him and he slowly walked away from us," Stewart Loew said.

That's when the hunter friend took advantage of the opportunity to tree and kill the lion, an older male.

It's not so uncommon a phenomenon in Arizona. In 2008, 42 mountain lions were killed as a result of their eating — or "depredating" — livestock. That's in addition to 264 that were legally killed by hunters.

Since 1972, an average of 31 mountain lions per year have been killed as a result of depredation, according to Game and Fish statistics. The peak year was 2003, when 66 were killed.

A mountain lion expert who for years tracked the animals in Southern Arizona said it sounds like the mountain lion at Agua Linda Farm, about 30 miles south of Tucson, had grown used to humans — "habituated" is the term experts use.

"What we found from monitoring mountain lions is they pretty much stay away from people," said Paul Krausman, who left the University of Arizona in 2007 for a position at the University of Montana.

It's even relatively unusual for a mountain lion to come into a farm, despite the fact that they're in rural areas, Krausman said.

"This lion obviously went in there and had lunch, but that's not the norm. From a management standpoint, that lion should be dealt with," he said.

For mountain lions, growing habituated to people generally means death. That's because they can't easily be relocated. Males placed in another male's territory will come into violent conflict, Krausman said. And pretty much all of Arizona is mountain lion territory.

"I wish that he was just moving through, but he had just settled in here," Stewart Loew said.

Also, an animal that grows used to people will likely return to where people live, Krausman said. He cautioned that mountain lions occasionally kill people, especially children.

Krausman and a local mountain lion expert, Sergio Avila of the environmental advocacy group Sky Island Alliance, said several factors can cause mountain lions to start encroaching on human lands.

Among them: A younger mountain lion could have chased the older cat out of its home territory. That's the theory an Arizona Game and Fish warden endorsed when looking into the case, Loew said.

Or the mountain lion could have been injured and found easy access to food and water at the farm, which is near the Santa Cruz River. Or long-term drought may have slowly made the cat's territory unhabitable.

Many human factors could have contributed to the lion's settling in at the farm, too. Urbanization, even in semi-rural areas like the river valley of Santa Cruz County, drives some animals out of their habitat. It may also lead to the animals more easily growing used to humans.

People may also be affecting the mountain lions' prey by over-hunting deer in a given area, or by draining water sources.

The slaughter at the petting zoo was unusual behavior, but it does occasionally happen, Krausman and Avila said. It's called "surplus kill," and there are a variety of explanations for it, though it's unclear which one fits this situation.

Sometimes a mother will teach her young how to kill this way, said Avila, who wrote a master's thesis on mountain lion depredation of livestock in Baja California. Or juvenile mountain lions will kill for sport, he said.

There's also a theory, Krausman said, that a mountain lion will go into a kill with abundant energy, and if the kill is too easy, it will keep killing until its energy is used up.

Whatever the cause, the petting-zoo slaughter shook up the Loews, who have a 12-year-old boy and a 14-year-old girl.

"My poor kids. These are their pets that they've raised, and they had to help bury them," Laurel Loew said.

They didn't want to kill the mountain lion, and now they're worried about restocking the little petting zoo before October, when kids arrive for pumpkin picking. They're also worried about a backlash from their environmentally conscious customers.

"For us, this story has no winners," Stewart Loew said.


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: arizona; cougar; mountainlion; wildlife; zoo
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To: Snurple

Sharps?


21 posted on 07/05/2009 12:26:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Flycatcher

That’s a great idea, Fly. Thanks for the laugh. :-)


22 posted on 07/05/2009 12:26:58 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: mylife

yes.


23 posted on 07/05/2009 12:28:38 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: jazusamo

original.


24 posted on 07/05/2009 12:29:05 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: jazusamo

Just before I left AZ, a little 5 year old girl came running into the house in Tucson..

“Mommy Mommy come quick!”

It was a cougar in the tree in the backyard


25 posted on 07/05/2009 12:31:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: jazusamo

The article said — They didn’t want to kill the mountain lion, and now they’re worried about restocking the little petting zoo before October, when kids arrive for pumpkin picking. They’re also worried about a backlash from their environmentally conscious customers.

Well, I personally don’t like uselessly killing animals, but I emphasize the uselessly, when I consider those things. However, I would say that if they are worried about this in terms of their “environmentally conscious customers”, then they need to get rid of them as customers... LOL...


26 posted on 07/05/2009 12:34:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: mylife

Unfortunately that’s happening more and more as lion numbers increase in some states, they’re completely protected in CA.


27 posted on 07/05/2009 12:35:49 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Star Traveler

Well said...Their biggest worry should be the safety of visitors to the petting zoo. :-)


28 posted on 07/05/2009 12:38:30 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: JeepInMazar
WHO in their right freaking mind is EVER "excited by the sight" of a wild mountain lion on their farm?! Are these people mentally deficient or something? They could be grieving their own dead kids instead of moaning about their poor kids having to bury their pets. As for their environmentally conscious customers... to hell with them.

We live on a small working farm and mainly raise dairy goats, sheep, and chickens. We're NEVER happy to see Coyotes and would certainly be just as unhappy (probably more so!) to see a mountain lion! We also have a larger piece of property about 20 minutes north in the adjacent county and between here and there people have a "Shoot, Shovel, and SHUT UP" attitude. We don't revel in, nor take any joy in killing critters. The last dog I shot was trying to fight our Pyrenees through the fence of one of our goat pastures and I figured if he was that persistent, then I'd just kill him. If I hadn't, the Pyrenees would have eventually gotten out and killed him anyway. I called the Sheriff's Dept afterwards because the dog had a collar and a tag, but turning it in was "optional"... so we "opted" to just bury the whole bloody mess in an adjacent field and stayed quiet about it. There was no hand wringing, no moral dilemma, no concern about what our environmentally conscious customers were going to think!...and believe you me, we have a LARGE customer base of those people!... and no loss of anything we own! The whole brief but loud incident resulted in somebody's aggressive, un-contained dog dying, and us wasting two .223 rounds and spending 40 minutes digging a hole and planting the mutt!

Dealing with the inner turmoil of what to do about a mountain lion at the farm is just too stupid to even ponder.

This whole article is a good illustration of why liberals simply can't come to terms with a correct and right response to evil in this world...which means being personally armed and prepared to use arms. They do supremely dumb things like analyze the psyche of a mountain lion before coming to the conclusion that any number of us would have come to in the first 10 seconds of seeing the thing in close proximity of our livestock!...which is that it simply has to die. The fact that they lost every single critter that they own (except for the geese) shows just how stupid they are.

Interestingly enough, they pass laws which are intended to force evil people to comply, but somehow realize (albeit a big late!) that the same is simply ineffective against mountain lions! When in fact, evil people no more comply with their desires than that mountain lion.

Liberals are simply retarded. There's just no other logical explanation.
29 posted on 07/05/2009 12:40:06 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: hiredhand

Well said


30 posted on 07/05/2009 12:43:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: jazusamo

maybe it was looking for Jack Bauer’s daughter Kim.


31 posted on 07/05/2009 12:44:33 PM PDT by isom35
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To: kenth

What got me was he has lived there 40 years and it was the first one he had seen. He just hasn’t been looking.


32 posted on 07/05/2009 12:46:27 PM PDT by Ditter
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42 mountain lions were killed as a result of their eating — or "depredating" — livestock. ">

Live stock are predators?

33 posted on 07/05/2009 12:46:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ditter

In Az, My Brother was wigged out because everyone in the backwoods carried a firearm.

“what do they need those for”? he protested.

I said “Jr.. you ever seen a Mountain lion in the wild?”

He said “No”

I said “well they have seen you”


34 posted on 07/05/2009 12:49:17 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: jazusamo

Either evolution is correct and we’re at the top of the “natural selection” and “the strong survive” pyramid or creation is correct and God gave us dominion over the animals and we are duty bound to maintain order.

Either way, the eco crowd is wrong.


35 posted on 07/05/2009 12:52:22 PM PDT by 1forall (America - my home, my land, my country.)
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To: jazusamo

‘It’s like living in a war zone’

http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/185335


36 posted on 07/05/2009 12:54:13 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jazusamo
Loew and his wife, Laurel, who run the all-natural, community-supported farm...

Could somebody please translate this into English for me? What could be more natural than a predator having his supper?

I don't want to sound callous but this one wasn't the cat's fault. They may call it a petting zoo but I call it bait.

37 posted on 07/05/2009 12:54:53 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mylife

Farm/Ranch people have always carried guns, to protect the livestock or put a sick one down.


38 posted on 07/05/2009 12:58:36 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: george76

Leow is a whiny idiot. When I lived the WE patrolled the borders.

He whines to the Gov that something has to be done, then whines when they do.


39 posted on 07/05/2009 12:59:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
I'm still just shaking my head over this. I read the article source to my daughter a moment ago. She's our primary herdsman here, and the whole notion of doing anything other than shooting predators like this on sight is just stupid beyond belief. :-)

Ah well... thank you for taking the time to read my little rant! :-)
40 posted on 07/05/2009 1:00:12 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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