Posted on 07/28/2009 2:01:51 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
These are later requested copies and while they themselves contain valid birth data, the date these certificates were issued doesn't indicate anything other than they were issues five years after the births.
If we use the date issued from Obama certification and it is in range with these, then obviously these can not be used to say that Obama’s certification was valid simply because the dates are similar.
The issued date means very little, the actual date of birth is what is important.
I can’t agree with you more, the information concerning the date on that document is completely irrelevant. But take this into consideration, say you are looking for a new job. You spot a great accounting job online, that requires you to have at least four years experience in accounting. So when you go in for your interview with résumé in hand, the employeer notices you put down information stating you worked as an accountant for 6 years. So they give you the job, while at work, the boss says “before we can allow you to help clients, we need to see evidence showing you’ve been in this field for at least four years.” So you bring in a copy of your résumé, and point out that it says you have six years experience. Is that proof? No. If you HAD experience, you would bring in old check stubs, a copy of your taxes, or a document from your previous employer. The fact that you would bring your résumé brings about concern if you really are trying to show actual proof. Now, this relates to mr. Soetoro in this way, when someone is claiming you are lying, or trying to deceive them, wouldn’t you bring out ALL the proof you can get? The fact that there hasn’t been a full copy of his BC obviously shows that’s the best he can come up with. It just doesn’t make sense that an innocent person would hold back evidence that could COMPLETELY clear him of all charges. Why feed the speculation by saying what you have is good enough, if you actually have the proof to remove all doubt? That fact alone says there is a reason we haven’t yet seen any original documents. The only official documents I could find were from Indonesia. Where it states he was an Indonesian citizen of the Muslim faith. I’ve seen it, so tell me where is the evidence that says in wrong?
Link here now with single clickety goodness;
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii+officials+confirm+Obama%E2%80%99s+original+birth+certificate+still+exists
SCRUBBED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wouldn’t it be funny if someone already had that BC number and went public about it. Funny stuff.
That’s why the Lieutenant had to get into his State Dept. passport files and check.......
I was born in Hawaii the end of March. My birth certificate was not filled out until a few days in April. So I am not sure if someone that was born a day later might have there birth cert filled out before mine. The person born after me could possibly have a birth cert number that is before mine.
As a side note, I ordered a replacement copy of my birth cert a couple of days ago and will be interested to see if it is the long form like I have possessed for over 50 years.
Yes. Would COLBs ordered now, show this odd 1961 and add a 0 to the original BC serial number format? Seems very strange ...... to change the original numbers like that.
What would the Twins show if COLB ordered?
Or anyone born in Hawaii from 1961 to 1990 or so.
Oahu is not a huge island... There may have been a lapse of a few days between births thats Why it is important to find out the dates of cert #’s 639 and 640....
This almost exactly proves that Anne Dunham was in Kenya on Aug 4th gave birth and one or two days later returned to Hawaii and registered his birth.
It certainly raises more questions that it solves and in my opinion is damning to his case that he was born in the USA
FOIA ???
For all numbers 600 to 699 ?
Impossible?
I notice that, in the 2 other’s Hawaiian COLBs you posted,
that the fold marks are VERY prominent, not at all like Bambi’s
and wrinkled all to hell,
and that the seal is very easily scanned or seen,
unlike Bambi’s unfolded unsealed unwrinkled version seen “online”
And it's a story they invited/started during the primary.
Remember the media tried and were held by the Gov and thrown out of the country
for trying to contact the family.
Why is there a half line of text above the O announcement in the second newspaper?
And again, one name below, an odd line ...
Last year the Hawaii Free Press ran a story about a group in Hawaii who were investigating Barack Obama’s birth in their state.
Since the islands’s hospitals wouldn’t provide any information, they networked through relatives, friends and sypathetic contacts, all towards one end: in which hospital was Brarack H. Obama born?
What they discovered in the files was jaw dropping. Nothing.
Mrs. Barack Obama Sr. (Stanley Anne D. Obama) was never, in all of 1961, a patient in any hospital on the Hawaiian Islands.
I believe it.
At this point it almost seems proven.
It is so obvious that this man was born on African Soil because of the beligerient low-brow menality of the responses of his backers trying to juke us into thinking we’re the tin-foil hatters that convinces me he was born in Keyna as his grandmother says. If not, why wouldn’t his other grandmother in Hawaii speak up? She raised him since he was 10. If she had any pride in the experience, and the fact he was about to be president, why wouldn’t she have spoken up? There is one cure, prove it!
Yes
During his two year campaign,
why wouldn’t the Hawaii residing grandmother release some kind of statement revealing all ??????
Or an interview.
She could go to the hospital but not talk to anyone?
For example, a listing for Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) appears in the 1961 Polk directory at the Seattle Public Library: “Obama Anna Mrs studt h516 13th Ave. E. apt. 2”.
This directory hit the streets when? Valid for?
IMHO, Obama's defenders are trying to use the Simpson defense in regards to his NBC status. I suspect many so-called "birther claims" may have been planted by the left precisely so they could be discredited.
What we birthers need to do is keep pushing the thread/rope analogy...let them pop the few weak threads that they themselves may have planted, but as long as the strength of the remaining circumstantial evidence holds, they will be left to account for and respond to it.
I also posted about that.
Great analysis
Why not ask every and any one born Aug 1961 to come forth???
Great analysis
Why not ask every and any one born Aug 1961 to come forth???
FOIA their BCs if deceased ???
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