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To: 1000 silverlings

Another great detail from these two Nordyke certificates - We know the Kapiolani typewriter in use for these certificates had a high capital “H” since it is present on the “Honolulu” and “Hospital” across both certificates. As more and more original certificates from Kapiolani are identified, that would be one more thing to verify on any alleged Kapiolani long form Obama might one day produce.

It would be high on the “Hospital” , “Honolulu” , “Hawaii” and also on the “Hussein” for father and son - LOL


213 posted on 07/29/2009 9:58:06 AM PDT by NaNaNaNaN
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The publication of the Nordyke certificates is reason to re-analyze other published long-form certificates to figure out when things were stamped and by whom.

There is a 1963 Hawaii long form (with blacked out names and other specifics) that circulates on the interwebz. This is a certificate from U.S. Army Tripler General Hospital, in Wahiawa, island of Oahu, Honolulu, Hawaii.

In this case, a “local registrar” (name redacted) was used, and the field #20 “Date Accepted by Local Reg.” was 6 Sept 63, which is typewritten. The local registrar in this case happened to be a LT COL, MSC, USA and so he was probably someone located at the military hospital who also served as a local registrar on behalf of the state.

Then it was later filed with the Registrar General and stamped (with a similar style of stamp to the Nordyke documents) SEP 10 1963.

This confirms that there were some cases where a “local registrar” would accept a document and then only later would it be stamped in field #22 with a date it was accepted by the Registrar General.

In terms of figuring out the Work Week in the local registrar and registrar general’s offices, the local registrar signed this 1963 document on Friday Sept 6 1963, as did the parent and the attendant MD. We don’t know if this was the day after this birth or what, since the birth date is blanked out. Both signature dates are typewritten 6 Sept 63.

The Registrar General stamped this document SEP 10 1963, which was a Tuesday.

So we know that in 1963, at least some stampin’ work was done on days other than Fridays. This makes sense, given that workflow would probably be similar throughout the workweek.

The idea of batch stamping of “accepted” dates is clearly preposterous because dates would then be meaningless.

It is still possible that the filing serial numbers were batch-stamped at some point in the work week after the documents were stamped as “accepted” with a date, but nobody has any proof one way or the other. If so, nobody has any idea about last-name-based alphabetization either, but that could explain the Obama filing number relative to the Nordykes.

A second public long-form Hawaii BC is the Edith Costa document from June 1962. This one has a birth date of June 15 1962, 3:51AM, at Wahiawa General Hospital, Oahu, Honolulu, Hawaii. This was signed by the mom on 6/15/62 (typed date), signed by the MD on June 15 1962 (handwritten date with penmanship matching the Richard Y Noda MD signature), and stamped with “accepted” dates in both the local registrar field #20 and Registrar General field #22 with the familiar-looking stamp JUN 19 1962. Again, this one appears to have been submitted directly to the registrar general’s office, since the dates are the same, and the stamp appears to be the same exact identical stamp. In other words, the “local registrar” in this case was actually the Registrar General as well - it was filed at the central office. June 15 1962 was a Friday, and June 19 1962 was a Tuesday. So we know from this document that some accepted date stampin’ work was done at the Registrar General office on Tuesdays in 1962.

We still don’t know anything about whether the filing serial numbers at the top were stamped in batches at the end of the week, or any other way that Obama could have a higher number than the Nordyke twins despite being transmitted to the registrar on an earlier date.

It would be great to get more long forms from Aug 1961 for further analysis of this type. People should look through Hawaii yearbooks for kids born in 1961, and call them on the phone.

A reward fund should be created, and rewards should be paid to any person who publishes their long form Hawaii BC from this era, in order to create a better database of records for analysis. I can’t see any ID theft issues that would result, since a digital image of the document is not the same as having a verifiable stamped document. Plus, it would be a powerful way of saying “We have nothing to hide by publishing our documents, how about you?” to the President. It would be a very powerful statement.

It wouldn’t take too many documents before a pattern emerged which could then explain how Obama’s certifiate could (or couldn’t) have a later (higher) filing number than the Nordykes despite being born first AND accepted by the Registrar first.

For the record, this is my speculation at this point: I think Obama was born in Hawaii, probably not at Kapiolani like he claims. I think his long form certificate indicates either a birth at another location (perhaps home) or some issue with his paternity. There is a remote possibility that it has something to do with his adoption. I don’t think the long form will show he is not eligible, but it will show that he lied about something significant. If his paternity were not as he states, it might even shore up some of the NBC issues relating to his father for him. If it says he was born at home, this creates NBC problems not at a technical level, but rather, at a credibility level. If he would have just said “I was born at home” then people might complain but nothing could be proved. If he lies, he will look very very suspicious even if he really was born at home.

With this, I urge Hawaiian citizens to keep publishing long form certificates, and maybe we should take up a collection to buy them all LifeLock and give them some money for their trouble.

Besides, as we have all learned, a long form Hawaii birth certificate is a worthless document for purposes of ID verification, since anyone can claim to have one and the Hawaii officials won’t say what’s really in the vault. LOL.

I might claim to be Magnum PI’s son so I can inherit a Ferrari. Or maybe I should be young Master Robbins...Hmm...


214 posted on 07/29/2009 12:33:16 PM PDT by NaNaNaNaN
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To: NaNaNaNaN

Good eyes, Inspector


215 posted on 07/29/2009 1:17:30 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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