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To: OneWingedShark; LucyT; Polarik; pissant

A picture (or table) says a thousand words:

Name

Location of Birth

Birth Cert #

Date/Time Born

Barack Hussein Obama II

Kapiolani Medical Center

151-61-10641

Aug. 4, 1961 7:24 pm

Susan Elizabeth Nordyke

Kapiolani Medical Center

151-61-10637

Aug. 5, 1961 2:12 pm

Gretchen Carter Nordyke

Kapiolani Medical Center

151-61-10638

Aug. 5, 1961 2:17 pm


45 posted on 07/28/2009 2:58:13 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Thank you.


46 posted on 07/28/2009 3:01:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: BP2

Did you see post #53? ... The ‘1961’ listing?


128 posted on 07/28/2009 4:23:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: BP2

8/4/61 was a Saturday. Maybe the hospital submitted all the births over the weekend the following week either in alphabetical order or in the order they were in the pile, not by time.


131 posted on 07/28/2009 4:28:29 PM PDT by muskah
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To: BP2; Polarik; pissant; LucyT; Calpernia; stockpirate; Chief Engineer; ckilmer; cripplecreek; ...
From where did you get O's BC #? FactCheck.com? Their reliability on anything is highly questionable, as they are an arm of Obama's political machine. So I wouldn't make any conclusions based upon their data.

There is yet another problem with your conclusion. You are assuming that birth certificates were given numbers in serial order, depending on the time of birth. We don't know if that was the strict rule at the time.

BTW, the reappearance of the elderly Mrs. Nordyke in the Advertiser at this time, displaying her daughters' birth certificates, could well have been planned by the Obama team. Though I believe those Nordyke BCs are authentic, they don't prove a darn thing as to where (or when) Obama was born. Mrs. Nordyke could be telling the Advertiser what she was told to say: that she remembers seeing Stanley Ann in the maternity ward at the time, when in fact she doesn't.

One more point: if the Dept. of Health reported all births to the newspapers at the time, why weren't the Nordyke twins' birth announcements in the same issue of the Advertiser as the Obama birth announcement?

132 posted on 07/28/2009 4:30:12 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: BP2; Polarik; pissant; LucyT; Calpernia; stockpirate; Chief Engineer; ckilmer; cripplecreek; ...
From where did you get O's BC #? FactCheck.com? Their reliability on anything is highly questionable, as they are an arm of Obama's political machine. So I wouldn't make any conclusions based upon their data.

There is yet another problem with your conclusion. You are assuming that birth certificates were given numbers in serial order, depending on the time of birth. We don't know if that was the strict rule at the time.

BTW, the reappearance of the elderly Mrs. Nordyke in the Advertiser at this time, displaying her daughters' birth certificates, could well have been planned by the Obama team. Though I believe those Nordyke BCs are authentic, they don't prove a darn thing as to where (or when) Obama was born. Mrs. Nordyke could be telling the Advertiser what she was told to say: that she remembers seeing Stanley Ann in the maternity ward at the time, when in fact she doesn't.

One more point: if the Dept. of Health reported all births to the newspapers at the time, why weren't the Nordyke twins' birth announcements in the same issue of the Advertiser as the Obama birth announcement?

133 posted on 07/28/2009 4:31:20 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: BP2

again, the last form put in an inbox (the form of the last baby born), is the first one taken off and assigned a number.

in this case, the last two are shuffled. person put them on the stack one at a time.


152 posted on 07/28/2009 5:26:54 PM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: BP2

It only means the paperwork does not proceed in perfect lockstep. A few hours variance in ordering isn’t a big deal. What we DO get is what BHO’s BC _SHOULD_ look like, and assorted facts which help affirm or discredit his claims.


163 posted on 07/28/2009 5:53:40 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: BP2
This is actually a very good reference. If anyone has done data processing, they know that information such as this gets processed in batches. Someone shuffles a stack of papers, or drops the stack, or it gets "stuffed into the file" instead of placed on top, and viola! It's not in order.

I'm sure all of us would like to see the original long form, just to have the question answered, but this is actually the closest I've seen to proving the Telepotus was born on US soil. Whether he still qualifies, due to his father, is another matter altogether.

It's the Clintons all over again. Slimy, slick, and scary.

182 posted on 07/28/2009 6:51:20 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Proud Retrosexual Wife of 15 Years)
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