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To: Fawn; meandog; thirst4truth

Dogs are what their masters make them. If you mistreat, starve, brutalize, and train it to be vicious, it will be.

You could do the same to a Lab or a Golden Retriever, arguably two of the most gentle breeds out there.

If a specific, INDIVIDUAL dog is vicious and poses a danger to people, fine - humanely remove it.

PEOPLE are the problem, not the dog. I have known many owners with “Pit Bulls” and those dogs are the same as any other dog. Maybe they’re a bit on the tougher side, but the ones that I’ve encountered have been loving, loyal animals that have NEVER hurt anyone.

The term “Pit Bull” is sorta like “Assault Rifle” - it’s deliberately misleading, calculatedly threatening, and stupid terminology with an agenda behind it, designed to frighten the uninformed and stampede the herd.

And for the record, whenever I hear talk of “eradicating an entire breed”, my hackles go up. If I were a “Pit Bull” owner, there’d be some SERIOUS problems for ANYONE trying to take my dog(s) for “eradication”. And I do mean serious problems.

Where do we draw the line with these stupid laws and equally stupid lawmakers? For that matter, do we even draw the line anywhere, anymore?

I know I do.


18 posted on 08/05/2009 9:18:51 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Dogs are what their masters make them. If you mistreat, starve, brutalize, and train it to be vicious, it will be. You could do the same to a Lab or a Golden Retriever, arguably two of the most gentle breeds out there. If a specific, INDIVIDUAL dog is vicious and poses a danger to people, fine - humanely remove it. PEOPLE are the problem, not the dog. I have known many owners with “Pit Bulls” and those dogs are the same as any other dog. Maybe they’re a bit on the tougher side, but the ones that I’ve encountered have been loving, loyal animals that have NEVER hurt anyone. The term “Pit Bull” is sorta like “Assault Rifle” - it’s deliberately misleading, calculatedly threatening, and stupid terminology with an agenda behind it, designed to frighten the uninformed and stampede the herd. And for the record, whenever I hear talk of “eradicating an entire breed”, my hackles go up. If I were a “Pit Bull” owner, there’d be some SERIOUS problems for ANYONE trying to take my dog(s) for “eradication”. And I do mean serious problems. Where do we draw the line with these stupid laws and equally stupid lawmakers? For that matter, do we even draw the line anywhere, anymore? I know I do.

Amen Brother! You're preaching to the choir!

19 posted on 08/05/2009 9:24:09 AM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: NFHale

That’s not entirely true. Molossers are ancient dogs that fall into two main types - the true mountain type molosser and those molossers that have been cross-bred with bull dog types. There is a third type that isn’t bred for molosser characteristics but still have molosser blood. At any rate, they have been bred for certain characteristics and occasionally there are bad strains that create a line of the breed with unpredictable behaviors.

I’m not knocking Pits, but there have been more people killed and attacked/injured by Pits than any other breed. If you’re going to keep Pits, you (meaning anybody) would be wise to keep a close watch on them for certain behaviors and characteristics that may not be seen for ten years in the dog and then, boom, next day they’re there. It is not a breed for the inexperienced and should be watched carefully around children and other animals. They MUST have careful, firm training, repeated and reinforced regularly.

It’s not just Pits. There are a whole lot of dogs in the same category - it’s just that Pits and their close relatives are vastly more common than the other bully type molossers.

All molossers are SERIOUS dogs and should be given firm obedience training by someone who knows what they’re doing and should never be trifled with.


26 posted on 08/05/2009 9:59:38 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: NFHale

You can’t train ‘personality’.


31 posted on 08/05/2009 10:20:49 AM PDT by Fawn (Rush Limbaugh---> America's pinata)
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