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Chode ^ | 8/5/2009 | Chode

Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode

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To: Chode

Great, very informative!!

I would argue that today’s consumer vehicles DO benefit from racing pioneered technology.


1,561 posted on 03/26/2014 9:30:26 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
look at the cars now with paddle shifters
1,562 posted on 03/27/2014 4:47:16 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode; al_c; arbitrary.squid; atc23; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; biff; bobby.223; bobt7818; BreezyDog; ...

it’s not F1, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHLbCOji78&app=desktop


1,563 posted on 06/09/2014 6:30:42 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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ya GOTTA be kiddin me...

Standing starts among 2015 rule changes

Formula One will implement standing restarts after safety car periods from next season after the FIA ratified a number of rule changes for the 2015 season.

It comes after the World Motor Sport Council gave the final sign-off to proposals at a Munich meeting this Thursday. The new rules state standing starts will take place at all times unless a safety car is deployed in the opening two laps or within five laps of the finish.

There will also be a reduction in the number of engines allowed to each driver across the season, down from five to four unless the calendar expands beyond 20 races, and a general cut down on testing. Next winter pre-season will return exclusively to Europe after holding two tests in Bahrain at the start of 2014. By 2016 pre-season will consist of two four-day tests rather than three. Meanwhile in-season testing will be cut from four tests to two from 2015, but with teams required to reserve half of the allotted running time for young drivers

There will also be a ban on the controversial nose designs of 2014 cars by rewriting technical regulations, as well as the introduction of titanium skid planks which create sparks, which were trialled by Nico Rosberg and Kimi Raikkonen during the Austrian GP. As part of the ongoing cost-cutting effort in F1 there will also be a restriction in the teams' use of windtunnels.

Parc ferme rules will now be imposed from the start of FP3 rather than the start of qualifying, while Friday night curfew has been increased from six to seven hours and will rise to a further eight by 2016. The ban on tyre blankets is one of the proposals to have been dropped, though the FIA says the issue may be "re-discussed if and when the wheel and tyre diameter increases in the future."

1,564 posted on 06/26/2014 6:30:21 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Standing starts? Oh puhleeze!!!!!


1,565 posted on 06/26/2014 6:45:49 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Chode
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!THIS WILL BE A RACE OF ATTRITION DOING THAT.
1,566 posted on 06/26/2014 6:58:08 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: mabarker1; henkster
this is insanity writ large...
1,567 posted on 06/26/2014 7:40:57 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

So why even deploy a safety car? Just red flag the race until Maldonado or Grosjean can cause some more wrecks on the restart, then repeat....


1,568 posted on 06/26/2014 7:54:55 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Chode

1,569 posted on 06/26/2014 8:04:59 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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1,570 posted on 06/26/2014 8:07:57 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode
They're gonna' "tweak" F1 into another backwater race series, like CART and Indycar.

Maybe they'll expand DTM worldwide. I'd like to see a race or two of those here in the States.

1,571 posted on 06/27/2014 5:34:57 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc
DTM/USA, that'd be cool...
1,572 posted on 06/27/2014 2:48:45 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode
More standing starts!

Time to buy AP racing and Sachs stock!

1,573 posted on 06/27/2014 3:30:02 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox
and whoever makes the clutches...
1,574 posted on 06/27/2014 3:56:08 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

I didn’t catch it all but I think the Ruskie in F1 is in Houston running the IRL Race this weekend.

YES- just ran back the DVR, it is Him.


1,575 posted on 06/28/2014 12:26:33 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: mabarker1
he can use the seat-time, and his contract prolly doesn't forbid it
1,576 posted on 06/28/2014 3:41:07 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2014/7/16087.html

Technical analysis - FRIC suspension systems explained 16 Jul 2014

McLaren racing director Eric Boullier recently confirmed that the teams were sent a technical directive from the FIA's race director Charlie Whiting following the last race in Great Britain regarding the legality of the Front-and-Rear Interconnected Suspension (FRIC) systems used on most cars. The governing body is understood to believe that some of the systems currently being used may contravene the technical regulations, raising the possibility of them being banned outright. But what exactly is FRIC suspension and how does it work? Read on to find out…


A Front-and-Rear Interconnected Suspension (FRIC) system, as shown on the 2013 Mercedes F1 W04


Front-and-Rear Interconnected Suspension (FRIC) systems have been around for many years; for example Ferrari were one of several teams to run a cable-based system in the 1970s. However, the hydraulics-operated technology of today is much more complicated and can be ‘plumbed’ in many different ways - it can cross link the front suspension, cross link the rear suspension, link the front and rear suspension, or - in the most sophisticated systems - link all four corners diagonally for maximum performance benefit.

But why do so many teams use FRIC systems? The first and most important reason is that it can help to generate more underbody downforce as it gives a degree of control over how the car changes attitude at speed when downforce is increasing. It also allows some degree of ride height/rake control when the car is braking.

Formula One cars produce up to 6G of braking force which means that the load transfer from rear to front is around 300 kilos. This extra weight - there for around one second on corner approach - not only increases the load on the front tyres, it also decreases the load on the rear tyres, and this makes the rear unstable under braking and on corner entry.

The other problem with this weight transfer from a performance point of view is the aerodynamic changes that take place when the car changes attitude. The weight transfer causes the front of the car to get closer to the ground and the rear to get further away and, with normal aero-maps, this will increase front downforce and decrease rear downforce, adding to instability.

If you have a system - like FRIC - that can use the increased load on the front suspension under braking to lower the rear ride height then it is possible to have a much more aggressive underbody and front wing aero-map, which in turn increases the car’s overall downforce and therefore grip.

If the system is sophisticated enough to also allow fluid to be displaced diagonally across the car it also allows the car to be run with much softer suspension without the penalty of increased roll. Again, this will help with overall aerodynamic grip and allow the driver to be much more aggressive over the kerbs.

Most teams keep these sort of systems under wraps so it is difficult to define all the components in detail, but it general they consist of four actuators, one on each corner of the car (the locations of which are indicated by arrows 1 and 2 in this drawing of the 2013 Mercedes F1 W04), with hydraulic pipework connecting the four suspension units to a main accumulator (indicated by arrow 3) which is situated next to a control manifold (indicated by arrow 4).

The main accumulator and the valve system within it acts as the brains behind the system. However, the systems utilised by each team will vary considerably with regard to how they use the displaced hydraulic fluid from each actuator and whether they feed it through to another actuator either diagonally or inline.

In the rear detail image you can see two black actuators with the pipe work linking them to a central accumulator (indicated by the red arrow). As you can see in the main image, pipework then links this to the main accumulator.

In the front detail view (to the right of the main image) you can see the front two actuators inside the chassis (top two red arrows) with two pipes coming from them (middle pair of red arrows). These pipes are used to bleed and pressurise the system with dry break couplings (the lower pair of red arrows).

In the lower detail image, the forward two red arrows show the positioning of the main accumulator and control manifold linking the front and rear suspension, whilst the two rearward red arrows show the positioning of the right-rear actuator and central accumulator.


1,577 posted on 07/16/2014 4:55:14 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

The mechanical complexity of the chassis/powertrain in general is just amazing. Their mechanics must have small hands.


1,578 posted on 07/16/2014 5:06:12 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation
they must have... i bet there's all manner of specialized tools to get to those hard to reach places

kinda reminds me of a 21st century Citroën 2CV suspension

1,579 posted on 07/16/2014 5:14:02 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode
Interesting. Just bought a used 2007 Toyota 4Runner with a Yamaha designed diagonal linked suspension. Called X-REAS or some such thing.

Dunno how much good it does, but the thing does not drive like a truck and is far better than our old 2001 4Runner.

Unfortunately the replacement cost is supposed to be very high and many guys just junk the REAS for conventional gear.

1,580 posted on 07/16/2014 5:24:06 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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