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Gun owner threat....is this for real? (No, Hoax)

Posted on 09/02/2009 8:37:46 AM PDT by bigjoesaddle

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Was NOT real in 2000. Oh yeah there was such a numbered bill but it had NOTHING to do with guns, registration, listing, or anything of the sort. It was false then . It is false now


21 posted on 09/02/2009 8:45:38 AM PDT by the long march
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To: bigjoesaddle

I do not believe any law, tax or otherwise, can be amended by a simple vote of the relevant committee in the Senate. Also, if this is an amendment to the 1986 Tax Law it MUST be passed first in the House as ALL matters of tax and spend must originate in the House of Representatives. So I vote debunked.


22 posted on 09/02/2009 8:46:01 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: mnehring

HR is dead for now. No one would sign on with bobby rush. But it is pretty scary that someone would even put this in print. These rats don’t write bills just to kill time.


23 posted on 09/02/2009 8:46:54 AM PDT by Texas resident ( It's us against them. And we're on our own.)
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To: bigjoesaddle

I would not comply with that, real or not.


24 posted on 09/02/2009 8:49:48 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Obama = Jim Jones coercing us into suicide on a national scale)
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To: mad_as_he$$

For now. They won’t give up their fight against the Second Amendment.


25 posted on 09/02/2009 8:50:22 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: bigjoesaddle

The bill SB2099, is either deeply hidden or does not exist. I received an email a few weeks agao with the number and researched it and could find no bill with that number. HR45 Blair Holt is alive and well though.

I could be mistaken so if someone has found the bill please cite source.


26 posted on 09/02/2009 8:52:38 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: bigjoesaddle
SNOPES is not always correct, but it IS always LEFT LEANING. If it helped the Liberal Agenda, SNOPES would lie through their teeth. Get someone INSIDE Congress to Verify this. Check with "Thomas" and other online sites that list Congressional Action.
27 posted on 09/02/2009 8:53:48 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (If you cannot make them see the light, make them feel the heat. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Snopes is leftist isn’t it?


28 posted on 09/02/2009 8:54:27 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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http://www.outdoorlife.com/forums/guns/hr-45-gun-licensing-fines-and-confiscation-sb-2099

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

SNOPES must have LIED. FACT CHECK LIES, too.

NEVER TRUST EITHER SITE. Do Your Own Research.
29 posted on 09/02/2009 9:07:17 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (If you cannot make them see the light, make them feel the heat. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: bigjoesaddle
I don't own any guns. Or ammo.
Next question.
30 posted on 09/02/2009 9:09:56 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Misc/misc.consumers/2009-08/msg00166.html

be sure to go to snopes and read as well.

Http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp TRUE

Concerning the Blair-Holt proposed legislation.

Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.
This bill was introduced on Feb. 24. This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all.
The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage, http://www.senate.gov/ You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099.
You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.
<http://www..opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text
Http://Thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:1:./temp/~bdbzvw:@@@J|/bss/111search.HTML |
Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don’t fully comply.

H.R.45 : To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 2/9/2009 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
It has started.
Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
Even gun shop owners didn’t know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar.
To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.
Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
-It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver’s License -You supply yourSocial Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come in and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. In p rison..
If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of ma NY options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along.
This is just a “termite” approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it..
This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.
If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe.
<http://Thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:
<http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show
<http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45
Please... Copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control


31 posted on 09/02/2009 9:11:24 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (If you cannot make them see the light, make them feel the heat. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: bigjoesaddle

I guess we’ll all be outlaws!!!


32 posted on 09/02/2009 10:18:58 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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