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To: Ramius; g'nad; osagebowman; Lost Dutchman; Squantos; Corin Stormhands; JenB; TalonDJ; ExGeeEye; ...
A new item that may, or may not, increase the comfort and accuracy of the tiny S&W J-frame revolver, especially the ones carried by women because "it's so small, it will be easy to carry". As someone who carries a .38Spl J-frame, I can attest, "easy to carry, and conceal, might be a real b*tch to shoot". So here are a couple of new items in the area of grips that may be of interest. I cannot attest to the availability of these products in pink.

Both revolvers are .22s, so I know recoil is not really a problem. They were chosen mainly to model the new grips. On the left is the new, and vey radical Ergo grip. It looks weird, and feels weird for about the first ten seconds. It provides a meaningful grip for all fingers, and aligns the grip with a natural line from your wrist down to the elbow, or so they claim.

Next to it is the new Hogue "bantam" grip for the J-frame. It's designed to provide a decent grip except for your pinkie, which is usually forgotten on all these compact grips. It's better than the original "Magna" grips (second from right), which were touted as an improvement over the original absolute-minimum grips, which extended only as far as the checkered area, and were intended more to protect the internal mechanism, with less thought towards the shooter's hand. Finally, an Ahrend's hardwood concealment grip, designed to function much like the Hogue "bantam".

For realistic worst-case testing, one of the salesmen at the LGS borrowed one of their scandium 11 ounce J-frames in .357Magnum (yes, they DO exist), and put on the Ergo grip. Common knowledge, validated by painful personal experience, admits the recoil is brutal (and a big deterrent to practice with the weapon, and gain added confidence).

With the Ergo grips, the recoil was still heavy (muzzle rise about 45 degrees, even for big guys), but not as brutal, because the final "slap" at the end of the recoil movement, didn't happen.

The Ergo grip does not fit on the S&W BG38, which is a quasi-J-frame, but shot about as well as my Model 60, but weighed six ounces less, which settled it for me. Accuracy, and shooting comfort, were roughly equal, so I retested the pair, the Ergo on the M60, and the new Hogue grips made specifically for the BG38, on the other. What used to be approximately equal results now produced these new results:

I instantly decided that an extra six ounces of weight was a small price to pay for more comfort and control (recoil still heavy, but manageable for even 50 rounds of practice), and far better accuracy. It was a no-brainer for me, but YMMV.

Another no-brainer for shooting comfort hit me recently, but I've gotten so used to the idea, I keep forgetting to mention it. First, consider a pair of shooting gloves. I use Surefire leather/nomex pilot's gloves, and they're worth every cent. Also, due to my carpal tunnel in my right hand, a couple of inexpensive terry tennis wristbands keeps my carpal tunnel syndrome from flaring up, especially with heavy recoil.

4,293 posted on 05/01/2014 2:12:46 AM PDT by 300winmag (Whatever CAN go wrong has already happened. We just don't know about it yet.)
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To: 300winmag

Interesting. Very odd grip.

Hmm. On a hammerless like that, what if the thumb is let to run up the backstrap? The weakside thumb could just set alongside? Might control some of that recoil. Or break a thumb.


4,294 posted on 05/01/2014 11:21:03 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: 300winmag

My opinion is the best thing you can do for a snub nose is add Crimson Trace Laser Grips to it. They will do more for your marksmanship than any other grip that I know of.


4,295 posted on 05/01/2014 12:14:36 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: 300winmag

I’ll be gettin’ an Ergo...


4,300 posted on 05/17/2014 3:26:30 PM PDT by g'nad (guns don't kill people... I kill people...)
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