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If Obama Is Eventually Impeached, Then Would Everything That He Signed Into Law Also Become Null?
me | 10/09/09 | johnthebaptistmoore

Posted on 10/09/2009 8:53:20 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore

If Obama is eventually impeached because he really was born in Kenya, then would everything that he signed into law also become null? I also don't see Obama ever really being impeached unless the GOP as well as conservatives in general actually have a supermajority of Congressional politicians in place after mid-January '11.


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This is probably a dumb question to ask, but I still wanted to ask it anyways. Also, could the present SCOTUS eventually overturn many of what, both, Obama and the leftist Congress make into law, due to much of what they pass being unconstitutional?
1 posted on 10/09/2009 8:53:21 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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No.


2 posted on 10/09/2009 8:54:04 AM PDT by La Lydia
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If it is proven he is ineligible, it would not be impeachment. It would be an annulment.

If he is impeached, then his laws stay on the books.

3 posted on 10/09/2009 8:55:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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bump


4 posted on 10/09/2009 8:55:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Useless Thread


5 posted on 10/09/2009 8:57:17 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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No. Impeachment is a polictical process. Even if a President is impeached, it does not changed the fact that he was in fact President when he signed any bills.

Congress would have to change any laws.

I do not see either happening any time soon, but it could happen, but like I say, not likely.


6 posted on 10/09/2009 8:57:17 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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I doubt anything will happen to him. He’s supposed to be “The One.”

They’d bomb American cities.


7 posted on 10/09/2009 8:59:32 AM PDT by wastedyears (If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - FReeper Enterprise)
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No. A law is declared unconstitutional when a Court strikes it down. If there are laws you believe to be unconstitutional and you are a party “with standing”, contact your nearest chapter of the Federalist Society and find a lawyer to pursue a case!
http://www.fed-soc.org/chapters/


8 posted on 10/09/2009 9:00:18 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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Since there is no case law or other precedent, I wouldn’t be so sure as to how it would go down. One of the main problems is that there is (to borrow a phrase from Al Gore) no controlling authority to declare an annulment.

An impeachment is likely the only practical way to go and even if he is ineligible I don’t think the votes would exist to convict.

Just my $.02


9 posted on 10/09/2009 9:00:31 AM PDT by Comstock1 (So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.)
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Removal from office. Impeachment is just the indictment phase. The House of Representatives acts like a Grand Jury. The Senate tries and upon conviction, removes the officer from office. Criminal charges would be a separate trial in regular courts following removal.

In the case of someone who has achieved the office via a fraudulent election, and who also in ineligible for office on the basis of not meeting the minimal Constitutional requirements for office, in either case it is not clear that impeachment would have to take place.

Nor is it clear what the result of laws and decrees initiated during such a term of a invalid office holder would be. Statute law can not override the Constitution.

Also, most of Federal Law passed since FDR is unconstitutional, but the courts have been lazy or corrupted.


10 posted on 10/09/2009 9:00:43 AM PDT by bvw
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No, because the executive power would still have been vested in him. Impeachment and removal would simply remove the executive power from him and vest it in someone else.


11 posted on 10/09/2009 9:01:52 AM PDT by cotton1706
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You cannot impeach someone who was never POTUS in the first place. “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified”: U.S. Constitution, Amendment 20 http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am20.html


12 posted on 10/09/2009 9:02:10 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

According to the Constitution the fact is Obama is not President.


13 posted on 10/09/2009 9:02:32 AM PDT by bvw
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The 20th would not apply because the election was fraudulent, under the fruit of the poisoned tree doctrine.


14 posted on 10/09/2009 9:03:42 AM PDT by bvw
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He isn’t going to be impeached he will be marched out by US Marshalls and placed in one of those beat down Yellow cabs of DC, that feel like they are coming apart.

He is ineligible, so impeachment would not apply.


15 posted on 10/09/2009 9:05:22 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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I also don't see Obama ever really being impeached unless the GOP as well as conservatives in general actually have a supermajority...

No republican/conservative is going to impeach "the first black president". Ain't gonna happen, period.

His own party may impeach, however, when it becomes apparent that their left wing is fomenting their destruction.

16 posted on 10/09/2009 9:12:00 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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no.

They’d have to go back and undo it with new laws


17 posted on 10/09/2009 9:14:50 AM PDT by GeronL ("On my twelfth day in office, Nobel nominated me..")
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Is that what happened when Clinton was impeached?


18 posted on 10/09/2009 9:20:27 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: wastedyears

They???


19 posted on 10/09/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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The government


20 posted on 10/09/2009 9:22:19 AM PDT by wastedyears (If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - FReeper Enterprise)
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