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Ft. Hood suspect remains in coma
Yahoo-AP ^ | 11/6/09 | LARA JAKES

Posted on 11/06/2009 12:34:13 PM PST by Pontiac

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To: Pontiac

Is this true? Was the weapon he used this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Five-seveN_USG.jpg

If that is the case, he was definitely a calculating terrorist. This is not a common weapon anyone would purchase or own, let alone a MD in the Army. I was a MD in the military, and none of use owned handguns like this. This is a very special weapon, not just the sort of weapon you would just happen to be your first purchase to protect your home being a MD on a Military Base. This guy had an agenda, and intended to kill.

Anyone thinking he is a victim is way out in left field. What a bunch of crapola! If Klinger on M*A*S*H tried to get kicked out of the Amy by trying to fool the psychiatrists, you would have thought this guy could have gotten out at any time: he was a psychiatrist himself, fully capable of understanding the ingredients and recipes (signs and symptoms) to have another doctor truly believe that he wanted out of the Army.

This fact that this guy waited this long to do what he did, and the fact that he had to re-load to shoot as many people as he did, and the fact that he performed this act where he did it, is proof purchase that he planned this. He thought of himself as a suicide killer, a terrorist killer, screaming to his Muslim God as he murdered American soldiers. And people think he is the victim?...??? Get a clue!

Now, we’ll have to deal with the endless construction of special programs to interview soldiers of foreign ancestry to see if they are on the edge of sanity. And to think, that these tests and analysis measures will be monitored by psychiatrists like this terrorist who, in the end, only wanted to kill US American soldiers. If he really wanted to get out, he could have. While I was a MD in the military, I witnessed several MD’s claiming they could not take the military way of life, and each brought suits against the military and all got out; conveniently after they had their training paid for by the very institution they claimed they could not live with. But they all were successful in getting out. The military does not desire to waste time with MD’s who are a waste of time, effort, and moral. So, the fact that this guy was still in the Army, and then decided to murder American Soldiers, is in my book, makes him a terrorist. This guy is about as much as a victim as Hitler being a victim of the Nazi’s SS.

I think that American soldiers are going to have to sleep with the eyes open now, if they are around middle eastern soldiers, and this is probably this guys ultimate goal, he probably really understood the ultimate terror to inflict upon American soldiers, making them distrust anyone around them who did no grow up on Main Street USA. If you ask me, I think this guy, put together the ultimate terrorist activity to inflict the greatest harm on American soil, exactly because he was a psychiatrist, fully capable of understanding the way the human mind works, and fully understanding of the horrible effect it would have for years to come in the US military. You cannot argue that this guy was the victim. Today, the US military way of life, it’s very core is the victim. The institution designed to keep us safe, to defend and protect the United States, it’s citizens, and it’s government, all are the victim today. Anytime somebody performs a terrorist act on American soil, means that we lose our freedom, our liberty, and our way of life.

That is terrible to think of, and that is terrorism. Anything less is sticking your head in the sand.


121 posted on 11/06/2009 8:55:30 PM PST by MajorThomas
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To: Pontiac

Is this true? Was the weapon he used this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Five-seveN_USG.jpg

If that is the case, he was definitely a calculating terrorist. This is not a common weapon anyone would purchase or own, let alone a MD in the Army. I was a MD in the military, and none of use owned handguns like this. This is a very special weapon, not just the sort of weapon you would just happen to be your first purchase to protect your home being a MD on a Military Base. This guy had an agenda, and intended to kill.

Anyone thinking he is a victim is way out in left field. What a bunch of crapola! If Klinger on M*A*S*H tried to get kicked out of the Amy by trying to fool the psychiatrists, you would have thought this guy could have gotten out at any time: he was a psychiatrist himself, fully capable of understanding the ingredients and recipes (signs and symptoms) to have another doctor truly believe that he wanted out of the Army.

This fact that this guy waited this long to do what he did, and the fact that he had to re-load to shoot as many people as he did, and the fact that he performed this act where he did it, is proof purchase that he planned this. He thought of himself as a suicide killer, a terrorist killer, screaming to his Muslim God as he murdered American soldiers. And people think he is the victim?...??? Get a clue!

Now, we’ll have to deal with the endless construction of special programs to interview soldiers of foreign ancestry to see if they are on the edge of sanity. And to think, that these tests and analysis measures will be monitored by psychiatrists like this terrorist who, in the end, only wanted to kill US American soldiers. If he really wanted to get out, he could have. While I was a MD in the military, I witnessed several MD’s claiming they could not take the military way of life, and each brought suits against the military and all got out; conveniently after they had their training paid for by the very institution they claimed they could not live with. But they all were successful in getting out. The military does not desire to waste time with MD’s who are a waste of time, effort, and moral. So, the fact that this guy was still in the Army, and then decided to murder American Soldiers, is in my book, makes him a terrorist. This guy is about as much as a victim as Hitler being a victim of the Nazi’s SS.

I think that American soldiers are going to have to sleep with the eyes open now, if they are around middle eastern soldiers, and this is probably this guys ultimate goal, he probably really understood the ultimate terror to inflict upon American soldiers, making them distrust anyone around them who did no grow up on Main Street USA. If you ask me, I think this guy, put together the ultimate terrorist activity to inflict the greatest harm on American soil, exactly because he was a psychiatrist, fully capable of understanding the way the human mind works, and fully understanding of the horrible effect it would have for years to come in the US military. You cannot argue that this guy was the victim. Today, the US military way of life, it’s very core is the victim. The institution designed to keep us safe, to defend and protect the United States, it’s citizens, and it’s government, all are the victim today. Anytime somebody performs a terrorist act on American soil, means that we lose our freedom, our liberty, and our way of life.

That is terrible to think of, and that is terrorism. Anything less is sticking your head in the sand.


122 posted on 11/06/2009 8:55:43 PM PST by MajorThomas
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To: Pontiac

Is this true? Was the weapon he used this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Five-seveN_USG.jpg

If that is the case, he was definitely a calculating terrorist. This is not a common weapon anyone would purchase or own, let alone a MD in the Army. I was a MD in the military, and none of use owned handguns like this. This is a very special weapon, not just the sort of weapon you would just happen to be your first purchase to protect your home being a MD on a Military Base. This guy had an agenda, and intended to kill.

Anyone thinking he is a victim is way out in left field. What a bunch of crapola! If Klinger on M*A*S*H tried to get kicked out of the Amy by trying to fool the psychiatrists, you would have thought this guy could have gotten out at any time: he was a psychiatrist himself, fully capable of understanding the ingredients and recipes (signs and symptoms) to have another doctor truly believe that he wanted out of the Army.

This fact that this guy waited this long to do what he did, and the fact that he had to re-load to shoot as many people as he did, and the fact that he performed this act where he did it, is proof purchase that he planned this. He thought of himself as a suicide killer, a terrorist killer, screaming to his Muslim God as he murdered American soldiers. And people think he is the victim?...??? Get a clue!

Now, we’ll have to deal with the endless construction of special programs to interview soldiers of foreign ancestry to see if they are on the edge of sanity. And to think, that these tests and analysis measures will be monitored by psychiatrists like this terrorist who, in the end, only wanted to kill US American soldiers. If he really wanted to get out, he could have. While I was a MD in the military, I witnessed several MD’s claiming they could not take the military way of life, and each brought suits against the military and all got out; conveniently after they had their training paid for by the very institution they claimed they could not live with. But they all were successful in getting out. The military does not desire to waste time with MD’s who are a waste of time, effort, and moral. So, the fact that this guy was still in the Army, and then decided to murder American Soldiers, is in my book, makes him a terrorist. This guy is about as much as a victim as Hitler being a victim of the Nazi’s SS.

I think that American soldiers are going to have to sleep with the eyes open now, if they are around middle eastern soldiers, and this is probably this guys ultimate goal, he probably really understood the ultimate terror to inflict upon American soldiers, making them distrust anyone around them who did no grow up on Main Street USA. If you ask me, I think this guy, put together the ultimate terrorist activity to inflict the greatest harm on American soil, exactly because he was a psychiatrist, fully capable of understanding the way the human mind works, and fully understanding of the horrible effect it would have for years to come in the US military. You cannot argue that this guy was the victim. Today, the US military way of life, it’s very core is the victim. The institution designed to keep us safe, to defend and protect the United States, it’s citizens, and it’s government, all are the victim today. Anytime somebody performs a terrorist act on American soil, means that we lose our freedom, our liberty, and our way of life.

That is terrible to think of, and that is terrorism. Anything less is sticking your head in the sand.


123 posted on 11/06/2009 8:56:24 PM PST by MajorThomas
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To: Pontiac

Excuse the posting x 4, I am not sure why my comment posted four times, and I am not sure how to remove he extra comments.... so If anyone could assist me in removing the duplicates, please do so.


124 posted on 11/06/2009 9:04:17 PM PST by MajorThomas
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To: Pontiac

When did they start telling us the terrorist was in a coma. It seems like this is some kind of coverup. OR they’re gonna...how should i put this...let this guy die so he can’t tell the real reason he did this.


125 posted on 11/06/2009 9:09:49 PM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: uncitizen

When did they start telling us the terrorist was in a coma.
***News to me as well. No doubt he will pay all those medical bills himself /s


126 posted on 11/07/2009 8:52:08 AM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: uncitizen
I first saw the report that he was alive the morning following the massacre.

I believe that the police believed him to be dead when he was loaded in the ambulance and reported it as such.

A think that events were happening to quickly and chaotically early on and they did not have the time to confirm all the details.

127 posted on 11/07/2009 1:27:01 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: MajorThomas

You can ask the moderators to remove the comments by hitting the abuse button and sending them a message but I don’t think it is that big a deal it happens.


128 posted on 11/07/2009 1:30:45 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: panaxanax

Yes you are correct it is available but extremely expensive.

Last I read about the weapon it was just out and at that time it was (and according to the article was planned to be) only available to the military.


129 posted on 11/07/2009 1:36:33 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: MajorThomas

Yes that is the weapon that Hasan used. I saw an article confirming it yesterday.


130 posted on 11/07/2009 1:38:05 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

You’ve also never heard me say, “assault machine pistol”.

Only Sarah Brady and Handgun Control are so adept at stringing nonsense together.


131 posted on 11/08/2009 9:25:44 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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Only Sarah Brady and Handgun Control are so adept at stringing nonsense together.

or someone who trains Certified NRA Instructors in Personal Protection.

NRA T/C CRSO


132 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:15 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Like I’d believe that after “assault machine pistol”.

I doubt you know what a “machine pistol” is, let alone an “assault machine pistol”.


133 posted on 11/08/2009 12:37:10 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
And your skill sets are ?

Besides childish name calling.


134 posted on 11/08/2009 12:56:21 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

1. I don’t make up silly firearms terms.
2. SIXTEEN years in the Army, ten of which instructing live fire on rifles and pistols.
3. 15 years and a dozen civilian training courses on the tactical rifle and shotgun.

I’ve carried concealed since 1990.

But, hey, go ahead and make up ridiculous terms that make no sense. It’s only the internet.


135 posted on 11/08/2009 3:19:36 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
analyze this :

Five seveN 30 Round unload


136 posted on 11/08/2009 4:09:22 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I’m not sure what that means.
Looks like some guy “sprayin’ and prayin’”.
I’ve fired both the P90 and the FiveseveN many times.
Fun to shoot, but I question the terminal ballistics of the round.

I apologize for my choice of the word “retard”.

I meant it in the same way I meant it when my friend put his thumb through the blade guard of his scroll saw.

But, as many of my jokes on FR and the rest of the internets, it went bad.


137 posted on 11/09/2009 5:16:54 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
I’ve fired both the P90 and the FiveseveN many times.
Fun to shoot, but I question the terminal ballistics of the round.

I apologize for my choice of the word “retard”.

Firepower; my point exactly.

Effective range 25 - 50 m.

There are a number of youtube videos on the net

5.7x28mm versus 9mm

another

CBQ.COM.UA FN 5.7

Apology accepted;
I see you are a follower of the Christ.
Please accept my apology as well.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
138 posted on 11/09/2009 7:26:12 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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