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Mammograms overrated?

Posted on 11/08/2009 7:08:46 AM PST by Rusty0604

I have heard twice this week reports from "experts" saying that mammograms are overused and they aren't needed as often as hey are used now. Is it just me or is this timed perfectly to prepare people to think future rationing as just practical medicine?


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To: Rusty0604

They are not a catch all end all as many would teach us to believe. Other checks also end to be done. Doctors have always been into fads and new doctors want the latest fad. If they have something better prove it.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 7:34:16 AM PST by ThomasThomas (I don't have time to Procrastinate)
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To: Hildy
I would be pleased to see more inexpensive cancer screening for those without insurance. It's out there, but it can be difficult to find. And if you need a colonoscopy, look out. Five grand easily.

And sometimes a colonoscopy is not optional.
22 posted on 11/08/2009 7:36:06 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Rusty0604

Two years ago, my 57 yo neighbor had a mammagram done, all was clear. Last December she had her next annual done and showed an advanced tumor and immediately started chemo and radiation treatments. She died last week.

What does this say?
Annual mammagrams MIGHT not be enough.
Had she been relying on govt run healthcare she wouldn’t have had a chance.

Guess that’s why we see a mortality rate of 4 times greater in the UK of breast cancer.


23 posted on 11/08/2009 7:36:49 AM PST by diverteach (http://www.slapobama.com/)
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To: spacejunkie01
it might be what you said (preparing us to be screwed on healthcare) but I do believe that mammograms are overrated or even dangerous to a great degree. If we are deficient in iodine, and most of us are, then your thyroid will absorb ANY radiation and wreak havoc on the thyroid. But, much more importantly, iodine is CRUCIAL for breast health. In fact there is a directly correlation between breast health and iodine. Our RDA is 150mcg (tiny) but Japanese women get at least 15 MG/ day...a huge jump, and the incidence of breast cancer is minimal.

Personal experience....I had 2 sisters, both of whom first had breast cancer in their mid 30's (this was almost 30 years ago). One died when her cancer returned and went undetected (Kaiser procrastinated on her care) until it had spread to other organs.

My remaining sister went 15 years before her breast cancer returned but with proper care and being vigilant, she has beaten it once again.

My point to you is that I have had mammograms since I was in my mid 20's (I am now 54) because of my family history. I have never developed any adverse effects and, IMHO, mammograms are a very necessary tool. I think it's irresponsible to claim that they are overrated or dangerous. They save lives.

24 posted on 11/08/2009 7:39:14 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: Rusty0604

Trust your instincts.

The State Run Media has been given orders to denigrate the US health care system.


25 posted on 11/08/2009 7:40:22 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: AnnGora

My friend just went through cancer treatments, found breast cancer with her yearly mammogram in April. 4 months of chemo and double the surgery and she is now cancer free. Don’t tell me they are over rated etc. I’ll take the smashing any day over the consequences of not knowing.


26 posted on 11/08/2009 7:41:31 AM PST by GrannyK
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To: Hildy

No flamming from me. See my post #24.


27 posted on 11/08/2009 7:41:59 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: CAluvdubya
flamming=flaming
28 posted on 11/08/2009 7:43:24 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: mysterio

I once paid for a colonoscopy and it was about 1,000. Believe me, if more people paid out of pocket, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper.

This is a true story. I needed an abdominal cat scan. I didn’t want to run it through insurance for personal reasons. I figured I’d pay it...it would probably run about $1,000. When I went to the imaging place here in town the nurse looked at me like I was nuts when i told her I was going to pay out of pocket. She told me it was $6000. And that was the cash price....more for insurance. I was dumbfounded.

I talked to my doctor about it and he gave me the name of a new imaging facility in a town about 40 minutes away. HE said they were new and they were sensitive to cash customers. I went there...how much was it? $800. From $6,0000 to $800. There is something wrong here.


29 posted on 11/08/2009 7:44:08 AM PST by Hildy
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30 posted on 11/08/2009 7:44:08 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: mysterio
Is there any preventative treatment? Is there a significant difference in price for treating cancer being caught early or relatively late? There will be some difference in surgery price depending on how radical it is, but is chemo a lot cheaper if caught early? Or, by delaying examinations are insurance companies able to reduce prices overall for them by some patients either dying or some cancers which would have been treated early going into remission without treatment?
31 posted on 11/08/2009 7:45:33 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Any similarity between V and the Obama admin is just that of Obama and any other totalitarian regime)
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To: Lizavetta

LOL!


32 posted on 11/08/2009 7:46:10 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Even pap smears aren’t recommended on a yearly basis. If you’re sexually inactive or truly with a monogamous spouse that is fine, but if you’re not a cancer may be missed. Although I don’t have the info in front of me, I was very surprised when I read the latest guidelines.


33 posted on 11/08/2009 7:49:00 AM PST by JavaJumpy
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To: AnnGora

The new digital one is much less painful, I had last year. Look for that. I have gone years between, but as I age I will get them more often.


34 posted on 11/08/2009 7:50:05 AM PST by libbylu ( Palin begins from Wasilla not only a campaign, an Iditarod of a crusade ....YEAH!)
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To: Hildy
If you don’t have insurance, it costs $75. Seems like a bargain to me.

That points to one problem I have with our medical system: secret and confusing pricing. The doctor often has no idea what a prescription he writes will cost or even no idea what a treatment will be billed by his office staff. Even the insane airlines can tell you what a ticket costs this minute, although it might not be the same if you wait 60 seconds. I'm not asking for a flashing sign outside a hospital advertising today's prices like a gas station, but if I am going to have some common surgery like a gall bladder removal I should be able to call around to hospitals and surgeons and get a straight answer what it will cost including all doctor and hospital charges.

35 posted on 11/08/2009 7:52:08 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Any similarity between V and the Obama admin is just that of Obama and any other totalitarian regime)
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To: AnnGora

“Most women don’t get mammograms because it’s the horse and buggy of medical methodology and it hurts!!”

Have you ever endured pain from cancer? It’s much, much worse than 30 seconds’ worth from a mammogram.


36 posted on 11/08/2009 7:52:56 AM PST by JavaJumpy
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To: libbylu

I had my first at 35 due to (non breast) cancer in my family. Now, I get one every year since I turned 40. I’ve had the digital one too, but as a gal who isn’t gifted in the bazooms department, they still hurt a great deal for me. I bruise every time.


37 posted on 11/08/2009 7:53:12 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: KarlInOhio
It's certainly cheaper to catch the disease early and do a lumpectomy rather than a full mastectomy and chemo. If you have an aggressive form, it is more likely to have metastasized. Then you're looking at removing lymph nodes; full body scans to determine the spread, more chemo, radiation, etc.

So yeah, it's better for everyone involved to detect it early.
38 posted on 11/08/2009 7:53:14 AM PST by mysterio
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To: JavaJumpy
I think tests and procedures should be a decision of the DR. and patient on a personal basis, not by some bureaucratic “expert”.
39 posted on 11/08/2009 7:54:24 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

About a month ago they came out with mammograms and prostate cancer screening being over used. It was kind of like when Seblius announced a couple of months ago that the president’s “scientists” predicted 60,000 Americans would die of swine flu this season. CDC hadn’t heard of it. Such a bald face lie the state-run media even ignored it.
I read in the middle of the night that Bambi mentioned “not letting “teabaggers” win on the hill yesterday. I am incensed.


40 posted on 11/08/2009 7:55:44 AM PST by libbylu ( Palin begins from Wasilla not only a campaign, an Iditarod of a crusade ....YEAH!)
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