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Virginia considers repealing last radar detector ban in America
The Examiner.com ^ | January 23, 2010 | Mike Stollenwerk

Posted on 01/23/2010 4:04:47 PM PST by majstoll

If one veteran Virginia legislature gets his way, the last state to ban use of radar detectors will repeal its ban too. Radar detector proponents contend that radar detectors often reduce travel speeds, aid enforcement, and promote safer driving. In fact the 1987 "Yankelovich Clancy Shulman Study" appears to support these claims when it found that the accident rate for radar detector owners was actually 23 percent lower than it was for other motorists. . . . And why might gun owners be interested in May's bid to repeal Virginia radar detector ban? Just peruse news reports and pro-gun web site discussion forums about the issue of traffic stops where drivers and passengers are carrying guns and you'll see why. Ed Levine lives in Loudoun County and supports May's bill. Mr. Levine has a concealed handgun permit and says he'd like the option to use a radar detector while driving because it might help him stay alert and avoid a speed trap because, Levine notes wryly, "the last thing I want to have on my way to work is a long drawn out discussion with a police officer about the handgun in my car."

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If one veteran Virginia legislature gets his way, the last state to ban use of radar detectors will repeal its ban too. Radar detector proponents contend that radar detectors often reduce travel speeds, aid enforcement, and promote safer driving. In fact the 1987 "Yankelovich Clancy Shulman Study" appears to support these claims when it found that the accident rate for radar detector owners was actually 23 percent lower than it was for other motorists. . . . And why might gun owners be interested in May's bid to repeal Virginia radar detector ban? Just peruse news reports and pro-gun web site discussion forums about the issue of traffic stops where drivers and passengers are carrying guns and you'll see why. Ed Levine lives in Loudoun County and supports May's bill. Mr. Levine has a concealed handgun permit and says he'd like the option to use a radar detector while driving because it might help him stay alert and avoid a speed trap because, Levine notes wryly, "the last thing I want to have on my way to work is a long drawn out discussion with a police officer about the handgun in my car."

1 posted on 01/23/2010 4:04:49 PM PST by majstoll
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To: majstoll
I hope that radar detectors become legal in Virginia.

It's really just a question of being allowed to know where the police are and what they are doing, since they are allowed to know where you are and what you are doing!

Was in VA a few years ago, and everyone was driving like they were on the way to a funeral.

Every single road, to include interestates and highways!

Ugh!

2 posted on 01/23/2010 4:09:55 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: majstoll

Heh. *Beep!* “No end-of-month revenues for you!” ;-)


3 posted on 01/23/2010 4:19:03 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: GI Joe Fan

The ban is absurd on its face. The ban reveals that speed enforcement is not about speed or enforcement, but revenue.

For a motorist to not know where the police are using radar using a passive device is just weak. To use a jammer, which is not passive is reasonable to prohibit. But even then it is still thin.

They are worthless on city streets, and if you’re speeding on city streets you deserve a ticket. The experssways are just that express. The speed limits on them should be flexible depending on traffic and conditions.


4 posted on 01/23/2010 4:23:47 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: majstoll
A radar detector is worthless anyway. Modern Radars stay in standby mode until the officer flips the switch. By the time the detector goes off, it is too late, you are already clocked. Further, Radar when properly used, is only a means to verify the opinion that the officer forms as to your speed. In other words, the officer doesn't need a Radar to write you a ticket.

When one takes Radar training, part of the test is to clock several cars without looking at the Radar readout. The officer's estimation of speed must be within a certain MPH +- the Radar reading for 12 clocks, with an overall deviation not to exceed a certain MPH.

People who think Radar detectors will help them are simply asking for a citation.

5 posted on 01/23/2010 4:32:03 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: majstoll

They work ! Just don’t be leader of the pack on the interstate. BIG truck behind you also screws up the reading . Let him ride your tail or draft behind .


6 posted on 01/23/2010 4:40:21 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: Renegade
This strategy - letting another car "pace" far ahead has always worked for me.

Once, however, on I-95 in Connecticut I have seen police pull over the whole pack at once. That, I must say, surprised me.
7 posted on 01/23/2010 4:46:39 PM PST by beagleone
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To: majstoll

When Virginia repeals the ban, it will cease to be “the Communist State”

It received that moniker when cops patrolled truck stops and just went in and confiscated radar detectors and wrote tickets


8 posted on 01/23/2010 4:53:47 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: All

Radar detectors are also worthless against Vascar and accutrack.


9 posted on 01/23/2010 4:59:00 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998

I hate cops.


10 posted on 01/23/2010 5:16:40 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: FightThePower!

The feeling is mutual..


11 posted on 01/23/2010 5:37:54 PM PST by halfright (My presidents picture is in the dictionary, next to the word, "rectum".)
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To: bert
It received that moniker when cops patrolled truck stops and just went in and confiscated radar detectors and wrote tickets This is why I don't like driving there.

Since I am allowed to know where the police are and what they are up to here in America, it is very frustrating to drive in an oppressive, communist stronghold like Virginia.

12 posted on 01/23/2010 5:42:58 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: Ouderkirk
The ban reveals that speed enforcement is not about speed or enforcement, but revenue.

Exactly. It's always been a cash grab. If a person discovers a way to figure out where the they are and what they are doing, it means less cash for them.

That's why they attacked people at truck stops with intimidation tactics through tickets, fines, etc...

13 posted on 01/23/2010 5:46:26 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: majstoll
As long as you have a good radar detector and are aware of its limitations they work very, very well. I used to drive 40,000 miles a year on the interstates. Usually between 80 and 90mph. I never got a ticket when my detector was on.

The ONE time it was off and I was daydreaming I cop in South Carolina nailed me. He was hiding on the entrance ramp to I-95 and got me as I went by. He even poked fun at me while he gave me my ticket asking me why my radar detector didn't help. Because it wasn't on {argh}

14 posted on 01/23/2010 5:51:35 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Marsha Coakley's been teabagged. Congrats Scott Brown! Mary Jo finally got even.)
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To: GunsareOK

ping


15 posted on 01/23/2010 6:16:19 PM PST by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market ..." --George "Hoover" Bush)
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To: majstoll

Where I live, you sign a piece of paper before you get your driver’s license, promising, among other things, that you will obey all traffic laws of the state. If you knowingly speed, you are not only a speeder but a liar too.

In writing!

Yep, I lie now and then.


16 posted on 01/23/2010 9:32:54 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: bmwcyle

Must check out link...


17 posted on 01/24/2010 9:19:21 AM PST by Apple Blossom (Politicians are like diapers, they both need changed regularly, and for the same reason.)
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