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1 posted on 01/28/2010 11:39:41 AM PST by GauchoUSA
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I like my Ruger Mini-14.....


2 posted on 01/28/2010 11:42:14 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (I Upped My Monthly Donation To FR....Now, Up Yours.)
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This should be fun.


3 posted on 01/28/2010 11:43:31 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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If you are going into the Russian forrest with the possibility of running into a brown bear, I would suggest an RPG-7V, or an DsHk.


4 posted on 01/28/2010 11:44:42 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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You better make damn sure they’re legal. You get caught with an illegal machine gun in Mexico and you’ll be in prison for twenty years. It may be the same in Russia.


5 posted on 01/28/2010 11:44:49 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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Springfield Armory SOCOM [civilian M-14 w/ 16” barrel]. Comes in .308 [7.62mm NATO], and DOESN’T fit description of Assault Rifle.


8 posted on 01/28/2010 11:46:09 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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SOCOM M14 - that’s my dream gun.


9 posted on 01/28/2010 11:46:35 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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I have both and will comment. Run of the mill AK rifles are not that accurate compared to AR rifles. I once outshot a Dragunov at 200 yards with a replica rolling block .45-70 rifle! For accuracy, go with a AR-15. For pull it out of the mud and shoot, go with a AK.


10 posted on 01/28/2010 11:46:43 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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Personally, I’d go with a Barrett M107.


12 posted on 01/28/2010 11:49:24 AM PST by Obadiah (Ramirez, we're oscar mike! Stay frosty.)
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Depends on how much you like the AK. It also depends on what you plan on doing with it. Plinking? 3-gun? Long range? 50-200 yrds only? What price range are you thinking? What part of the US will you be living in? What is your ammo budget like?

I like my AR's and haven't had any issues with them. I've been thinking about adding an LR-308 to my collection so that I'd have a bit more grunt if I need it.

Ruger Mini-14 is a good alternative. If you like the AK platform, you could just stick with that.

For home defense, stick with either a handgun or consider a shotgun. Rifles are noted for over penetrating. You don't want to shoot through the bad guy standing there in your bedroom doorway at zero-dark:30 and end up plugging your neighbor as well.

14 posted on 01/28/2010 11:50:24 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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Just added “banglist;bang” to the keywords.....that should bring the experts in.


15 posted on 01/28/2010 11:50:26 AM PST by Roccus (ABLE DANGER?????...................What's an ABLE DANGER???)
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buy a used one don’t go thur a dealer no P.W.


16 posted on 01/28/2010 11:51:46 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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For hunting, SAVAGE makes [may be out of production], a “scout Rifle” [.308, bolt operated,18 or 20” barrel, forward scope mount] which is reasonably priced. If you’re gonna be where the big bears are, go with a .300 to .338 magnum, a .375 H&H, or a Marlin Guide gun [lever gun with 16 or 18” barrel] in 45-70.


17 posted on 01/28/2010 11:52:19 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Bushmaster M4-A3. Get it with the removable carry handle.

They are a good value for the buck and reliable. You can also find a tremendous number of accessories to buy for it.

By the way. Keep the alcohol for after the days hunting and shooting! :-)

19 posted on 01/28/2010 11:53:28 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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This'll take down a squirrel no problem...

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22 posted on 01/28/2010 11:54:49 AM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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with a couple more friends will go hunting, drinking and shooting...you know man stuff.

Yo, Pablo,

I'm drinking right now, but, hunting and shooting ...you know man stuff, don't mix.

If your going to be drinking, do man stuff... you know, lying about your sexual conquests, your ability to bench 300 lbs, etc.

If you are going hunting or shooting, leave the drinking to me.

But, if you want to hunt, shoot and drink...use a water pistol.

23 posted on 01/28/2010 11:55:18 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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First a confession. I sold my AR-15 to pay for my Wife's engagement ring. I am still paying penance for that decision 16 years later. Not for buying the ring, but for selling that gun before it tripled in value. Your teasing will help pay off that penance earlier, so have at it.

As for the AR-15 vs the AK I would go for the AK. They were designed to be operated, broken down and cleaned by untrained peasants. Simple is good.

25 posted on 01/28/2010 11:56:26 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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"If a revolution should come, how should I prepare, rifle-wise?"

What do you see as your function in said revolution?

If you plan to go into battle against trained soldiers, armed with modern weapons, then you need a battle rifle so you can reach out and touch someone. M-1 Garand, AR-10, with a scope if you need one. My own view is that long-range combat against soldiers is a young man's game, not for me.

If you are planning to dispatch the inevitable zombies at less than 200 yards, then any .30-.06 or carbine should do you fine. Hunting rifles, as opposed to black guns, will attract a lot less attention. And, they're a lot cheaper than AR-15s.

Don't forget your shotgun. In fact, if you don't have one, get that first.

26 posted on 01/28/2010 11:57:13 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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What would give me more bang for my buck? If God forbid a revolution is to come how can I prepare Rifle-wise.

For a revolution, the AR's or the AK-47's are just fine. I'd not use either for home defense unless I had a lot of property to protect and still wouldn't use them in the home. Do you want to hunt? Check your state's regs, some won't allow hunting with 223/5.56's.

27 posted on 01/28/2010 11:57:39 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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Hmm, I really like mt PS-90, but it’s not really a long-range type rifle (better for close-quarters & room-clearing, IMO), the 5.7x28 mm round isn’t common which can be good and bad. (Good in that they aren’t in high-demand and therefore are more readily available.)

A .22 is quite common, accurate, and while not the best punch will kill varmints... even the two-legged kind... though such a small round doesn’t lend itself to going against body armor well.

If you want a ruin-his-day-even-if-he’s-wearing-armor Id suggest the standard 12ga shotgun — loaded with slugs and/or sabot-rounds. I fired a few slugs into an old hot-water tank [the old cast-iron type] and it left big old dents that left stress fractures/tears in the iron which was between 3/8ths and 1/4th an inch thick.

The 5.56mm NATO standard round {M-4, M-16, AR-15, etc} round is really common, and if there is any UN actions against us you can bet that’s what they’ll be using. It’s also what the Army, Air Force, and Marine Corp. use for most of their small-arms, so if they decide as an organization to be loyal to the Congress/President rather than the Constitution you’ll be able to find 5.56mm all over engagement-sites.

I’m sure you’ll be getting a lot of advice about other, bigger caliber rounds shortly.


28 posted on 01/28/2010 11:57:40 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Ruger Mini 14 - uses .223 ammo same as a M16


31 posted on 01/28/2010 11:59:13 AM PST by GoldMan (Never try to rationalize an irrational mind............)
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