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To: rom
Show me a single cell organism evolving into my next door neighbor and you have a deal. (I’m not even hostile to the theory of evolution — but it does meet your definition of an extraordinary claim).

Who said anything about evolution?! I never claimed to be an adherent of Darwin. Why are you introducing this issue into the discussion?

But in any event, a single-celled organism evolving into your next-door neighbor would, in fact, be a very good falsification of Darwinism! It would disprove it, as any reputable Biologist would agree! (For your information: What you have committed here is called the "Strawman Fallacy.")

And besides, believers in the Theory of Evolution admit that it is a theory (albeit a very solid one).

Lastly, no proponents of Darwinism are going to assert that you will be consigned for all eternity to Hell for not believing in the Theory of Evolution, so actually, their burden of proof is not so great as yours.

I’m not even hostile to the theory of evolution — but it does meet your definition of an extraordinary claim

No, I'm pretty sure that any disinterested third-party would agree that the particulars of Christ's life, as reported (in varying and in-part contradictory versions) in the New Testament are pretty outrageous, as well as in part non-sensical or just plain absurd ("Jesus curses a fig tree?") whereas the Theory of Evolution requires the acceptance of absolutely no premises, assertions, or argumentation not wholly in keeping with standard scientific method.

Regards,

34 posted on 02/20/2010 9:03:16 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek

Uhhh. Didn’t my next-door neighbor evolve from a single cell organism of some kind? Do you dispute that? Shouldn’t we be able to trace him from his current state -> back through time through a series of ancestors back to a single cell progenitor?

You are the one who started the whole thing by asking for satellite imagery of the resurrection. That’s absurd. You know when satellite imagery was invented.

As for the contradictions in the New Testament gospels, they are eyewitness accounts. I don’t think you can get 4 people who saw the same events over a 3 year time span to 100% agree. Which to me makes the idea of the Gospels even more trustworthy as they aren’t robotically identical.

I think the bigger question is — why are you so angry if Hell is imaginary?

Because if we believe in fairy tales (Hell being imaginary, and evidently Jesus is just a psycho) — you should just chill out. Because we’re not asking you to hurt yourself or others to put your trust in Christ.

But I think believing that there is no moral basis for anything we do, other than some vague “it’s good for society” is quite harmful — and has proven harmful wherever Objective Morality is removed from society — which is where Darwinism can lead.

I hope you find peace some day.


35 posted on 02/20/2010 12:50:52 PM PST by rom (You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free)
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