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1 posted on 04/26/2010 9:01:54 PM PDT by SmithL
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So the original lyrics of Old Man River have been erased from history?

I didn't know that.

Does anyone know exactly when that happened? I could not have been before 1950.

2 posted on 04/26/2010 9:08:53 PM PDT by Publius6961 (10% of muslims, the killer murdering radicals, are "only" 140,000,000 of 'em)
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It contains the word “darkies.”

The WHOLE SONG is about how WHITE FOLKS are keeping “darkies” subservient.

The WHOLE SHOW is anti-racism.


3 posted on 04/26/2010 9:09:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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Changes listed under “Paul Robeson’s alterations to the song lyrics”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ol’_Man_River


4 posted on 04/26/2010 9:12:05 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: SmithL
Old Man River
5 posted on 04/26/2010 9:15:39 PM PDT by the_daug
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Just one more attempt at the pussification of America by a bunch of hysterical pussies.


8 posted on 04/26/2010 9:19:43 PM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental and social illness)
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Apparently the “derogatory terms” in question are so taboo that the Contra Costa ties can’t even give us a clue as to what they were. Was it the ultra-original version that contained “niggers”, or the not much later version that changed “niggers” to “darkies”, or is even the later later “colored folks” considered too derogatory to mention. How the heck is poor Mr. Lebherz supposed to know exactly what words are so taboo that they are prohibited in any context, if the words can’t be written or spoken anywhere?


10 posted on 04/26/2010 9:29:56 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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...forced to apologize to the class and to complete diversity training...

Oh yes, self-criticism and a tearful confession in the re-education camps of Diversity Training. The Soviets may have lost the Cold War but the communists are still holding out in academia.

13 posted on 04/26/2010 9:37:09 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Death, would death do it for you “equal treatment” folk? Do you want to watch? Perhaps participate?


14 posted on 04/26/2010 9:41:17 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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Saint Mary's College has punished a singing instructor... for his choice to use... the original version of the show tune "Old Man River," which refers to slaves and African-Americans in derogatory terms... The musician already has been forced to apologize to the class and to complete diversity training, said Beth Dobkin, the college's provost.


16 posted on 04/26/2010 10:40:32 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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I remember watching a black guy sing “Old Man River” on the stage at Radio City Music Hall in New York City when I was a kid. Now, it’s a problem? It’s a classic song.

The guy should sue St. Mary’s.


17 posted on 04/26/2010 11:04:50 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm voting for Sarah Palin because she pisses off the right people.)
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Lebherz, an artist in residence at Saint Mary's, had been asked to teach classes this year, Dobkin said. His choice to use the original version of the show tune "Old Man River," which refers to slaves and African-Americans in derogatory terms, will affect his employment, she said.

"It already has, but I can't tell you to what extent," Dobkin said. "We're continuing to discuss our future relationship with him."

This case appears to be about a religious institution, as opposed to a tax-payer supported school. Thus, regrettably, Dobkin's pension will not be directly affected when California goes bankrupt.

20 posted on 04/26/2010 11:16:22 PM PDT by cynwoody
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Upon reading the article it's hard for me to determine if the student could have actually thought the teacher was trying to be insulting or if he, the student, is just casting himself in the role of race martyr. I'm thinking that it's the latter.

Even after the school responded in what I deem to be a more than sufficient manner, Mr.Youngblood is still not satisfied and would like to see the Mr. Lebherz fired. I suppose if he really had his druthers he would like to see him drawn and quartered. I think it is time for this whiner to sit down and shut up.

21 posted on 04/27/2010 1:39:41 AM PDT by Mila
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Thoughtcrime doubleplusungood.


22 posted on 04/27/2010 2:15:01 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (And that is all the people need to know!)
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It's not "Old Man River."

It's "Ole Man Riba."

I am now going through my library and burning all my Steven Foster Songbooks. To make amends, I may even vote for an African from another country.

24 posted on 04/27/2010 4:11:22 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama. He'll bring back States' Rights. In the meantime, this ain't gonna be pretty.)
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Here's the email and name of the dean of Liberal Arts:

Stephen Woolpert, Ph.D.
Dean for the School of Liberal Arts
woolpert@stmarys-ca.edu


Here is the Provost's picture and short bio:



Dr. Dobkin has a distinguished history in higher education as a faculty member and an academic leader. Previously, she served as Associate Provost of the University of San Diego and was a faculty member in the Department of Communication Studies for 17 years. Dr. Dobkin has achieved national recognition for her research and teaching in the area of media and conflict. Her honors have included a fellowship in executive leadership with the American Council on Education.

Dr. Dobkin earned her doctorate in Rhetoric and Social Order and a master’s degree in Rhetoric from the University of Massachusetts, and received a bachelor’s degree in Speech Communication from Humboldt State University.
26 posted on 04/27/2010 4:22:39 AM PDT by aruanan
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We should just start everything including our history from about 1975 forward. Wait, nope that won’t do. The Tea Parties are racist so we can’t even include history from today. How about we have no history except of course for that slavery thing.

If race is the criteria for what is and what isn’t acceptable eventually we will have to get rid of our founders and most history prior to 1950 or so.


27 posted on 04/27/2010 4:23:29 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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My email to the dean of Liberal Arts:

Hello,

I'm wondering how someone, such as your provost, with a Ph.D. in Rhetoric fails to realize that censoring an academic for using a famous song from a famous American musical that is sympathetic to anti-slavery sentiments and portrays the hard life of slaves makes all of academia look just plain stupid to the general public?

At best the actions of the school in this regard are thoughtless; at worst, reflexive and craven. Making this artist in residence "complete diversity training" is something right out of the Cultural Revolution of the PRC. Shame on Saint Mary's for permitting such an egregious assault on scholarship and bowing so readily to notions of political correctness.


28 posted on 04/27/2010 4:34:20 AM PDT by aruanan
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It amazes me how people are unable to say, “This is an old song, from a different era, when blacks were called darkies or whatever, but things are different now, and isn’t it interesting to look at the olden days?” It’s a lesson, it’s history. Why must everything be banned because it isn’t politically correct for the Year 2010? We’ve turned into a nation of overly sensitive, whining pansies.


29 posted on 04/28/2010 8:35:35 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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