Posted on 04/30/2010 7:45:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
Dr. Ronald J. Polland, PhD, has posted on YouTube a series of videos that are part of a book he has been writing for two years. The title is “Fraud in the USA: The end of the birth certificate controversy.”
As described in his, “About Me” video, Dr. Polland’s expertise is in Research and Program Evaluation, with over 31 years of post-doctoral scientific research experience. He is also the leading authority on scanning, photographing, (and videotaping) both sides of authentic, paper Hawaiian COLBs.
Because of YouTube length restrictions, Chapter 1 has been split over four parts (uploaded now) and Chapter 2 has been split over two parts (will be uploaded by 6pm EST). He has also posted an “About Me” video that has his full credentials and highlights important aspects of his career.
For those who wish to see it as one entire video, he will be posting the full-length version on Screencast.com and will be available tomorrow morning).
So why is it that your constantly interrupting posts starts the flame war, huh??
When you discuss the issue at hand... that's not the flame war... that's simply arguing a position that different posters take.
But, when posters start attacking the individual posters themselves personally ... that's the stuff that is not wanted here. And it's that kind of stuff that they want to stop.
Discussion of issues and the relevance of some facts and what something means or doesn't mean in an issue, even when people disagree is fine. Disagreement there is not a problem. But, discussing someone's status as a person is not the situation that is desired here... you see... :-)
What I've said is that people really only have about three ways to see Obama gone from office -- and I'm pretty certain on that.
(1) Impeachment/Conviction route by Congress, (2) Vote him out of office and (3) he reaches his term limit and leaves.
From those I only see #2 as the one that has 100% certainty of working (besides #3 working for sure, 100%, when his limit is reached). But, I don't see #1 working at all, because of the Democrat Congress.
That's what I see and it's been shown by experience, too -- in the last year and a half of him being in office... Now, "that" is an "issue" at hand that I think is very relevant.
Isn’t that getting into a flame war, and not discussing the issue at hand... :-)
I don't care about the history between you two that you brought to this thread, but on this thread you have not made one post to the point of the thread.
Why?
-PJ
Again... not the issue of the thread that the poster put up here ... :-)
You may not like doing the LOL, yourself, but I’m not trying to get you to do that ... :-)
Your postings here are similar to David Kernell!
Your "about" page says it all. You are nothing but a freak hypocrite!!
And that is just the true "flaming" you deserve, and you must be some sort of masochist, because you just directly asks for it, FINO!!!
I 2nd that
I’m posting on the issue at hand, which has to do with — as I was saying above — how one gets Obama out of office... and it only comes down to about three ways, generally...
(1) Impeachment/Conviction route by Congress, (2) Vote him out of office and (3) he reaches his term limit and leaves.
From what I see the absolute and best chance to get rid of Obama is #2 — vote him out of office. Otherwise, if we fail there — there’s only #3 left, which is the term limit... and that will do it, too — but it leaves him in office for another four years... and that’s not what I want to see...
You're right, you don't understand the history between ST and me, believe me, it's a long story.
But you are witnessing first hand what ST does best on these threads, distract.
You will also note it was the mod who came in and reminded ST not to be posting on these threads, this is why.
As for the vids of topic, I've only watched the first one, so far I like what I see and intend on watching the rest.
Did you see the comment below? It’s 46 on the first page of this thread:
To: Star Traveler
Did you forget when Jim asked you to stay off all birth cert. threads?
46 posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12:03 PM by Admin Moderator
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WOW, ROTLMAO. You are absolutely totally delusional and a freak Soetoro plant, or you need to check with a shrink or forgot to take your hormone pills today!
I'm finished with you, By-By!!!
Your "about" page says it all. You are nothing but a freak hypocrite!!
I was hoping that my about page would say what is important to know... and it mentions the two topics that I'm interested in and you see me posting on those two quite a bit.
So I don't see the problem you may have with it....
But, even if you do have a problem with my two favorite topics... I don't see why that has any bearing on the issue that was brought up about getting Obama out of office ... (neither one of those two favorite topics of mine has anything to do with that).
So, to the topic at hand... when the election was carried out in 2008, I voted for the GOP ticket, because I don't go for Democrat candidates and/or the Democrat platform. So, it was a no-brainer for me.
However, it was extremely disappointing to me to see that Obama got 10 million more votes for the Democrat ticket than we did. That was not good.
So, at that point in time and after the inauguration was done -- that left, as far as I could see ... just three ways to get him out of office. And right now I think that we have one sure and 100% guaranteed way (stress the 100% guarantee) -- to get him out of office.
And that's to make sure that we vote him out of office. I think that's a "must do" -- if we want to get rid of him.
Otherwise, we'll all be stuck with him until his term limit is reached.
So, what I would like to see done is that there be actions taken so that we can make sure that those 10 million more votes that he got last time, can be turned around and swayed over to our side. Now... I think I know what issue will be the killer for Obama and I think it's the economy and "jobs" -- because that ends up affecting everyone no matter what their political persuasion and that's what gets people mad and wanting to "throw them out" (no matter which side of the fence they're on) -- so I think that's a real "hot button issue" with all voters and that's what will work with getting Obama out of office.
Oh give it a rest. Not everyone that believes that he is a fraud and has issues with the BC rallies behind Berg and/or Taitz and don’t ASSUME that everyone is sitting there waiting for a do over button. Some can multi task, try it sometime.
I’ve written to Jim before and he’s written to me... it’s the flaming that is not wanted here... personal attacks and flaming and I’ve been told before not to do that... and so I’m hoping that others are doing likewise, too...
But, I’ve also got another e-mail in to him now... and I’ll talk a bit more with him about it, as soon as I hear back... and I’ve always been cooperative.
I don’t intend to be engaged in flaming wars and/or personal attacks... so I hope that you can stay “on issue” too, as that’s what I’m talking about here...
What I saw was Star Traveler making on-topic points, even though many disagree with her. I'd been having the same debate with her going back to June 2008 and the Chester Arthur discussions, but once each person's point is understood, saying it louder won't change minds.
So Star Traveler's position is that nothing short of voting Obama out of office will work. Fine. I get that. Chasing her from thread to thread to thread isn't going to change her mind, and this "you said, no you said" only clutters up the on-point posts and drives the rest of us away from continuing the on-point discussion.
I have to wonder who's purpose that really is?
-PJ
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ST is not all there mentally. That’s apparent.
Maybe she’s off her meds today....or popped too many!
To your second point, I've been seeing the same knee-jerk reactions that people had during what I'm calling the "discovery phase" of this issue, that is, finding out the facts of Obama's birth situation and the relevant laws at the time, and the reporting on the reporting of the "birthers."
The people who were on the recent "investigation" thread are immediately discrediting it by saying things like "the 14th amendment doesn't appply so this report has no credibility," or on this thread with things like "I watched until..." because some discredited fact was reported as true, when the focus of the report was not on reporting facts as true but on reporting what was reported in order to demonstrate mischief in reporting. (sorry for the long run-on sentence)
Let's see some more discussion on that, and stop bickering over the credibility of the claims. We're past that, and the latest round of reports is on the purposeful misreporting of the birth-eligibility story, and who was behind it.
-PJ
Some things never change, right? ST, still trying to disrupt threads, still speaks in that condescending tone...still LOL’s in each post, and if no LOL then a :). Now the newest thing is “doncha know”. This thread is now all about ST so I wonder if ST gets a bonus each time that happens. POS AH.
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