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EMP could leave '9 out of 10 Americans dead'
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 3, 2010 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/04/2010 5:12:37 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is renewed alarm about the possibility of an EMP attack – electromagnetic pulse – on the United States because of Iran's work on a multi-stage Space Launch Vehicle, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

And experts forecast if such an attack were a success, it effectively could throw the U.S. back into an age of agriculture.

"Within a year of that attack, nine out of 10 Americans would be dead, because we can't support a population of the present size in urban centers and the like without electricity," said Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy. "And that is exactly what I believe the Iranians are working towards."

A recent launch of an SLV by Iran has sparked renewed concern of an attack that could send an electromagnetic pulse powerful enough to wipe out computer controls for systems on which society has come to rely, officials say.

As the G2 Bulletin reported last week, Ronald Burgess, director of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, revealed that Iran successfully launched a multi-stage SLV, the Simorgh. The device ultimately could be equipped with a nuclear bomb, which the U.S. intelligence community assesses Iran is developing.

Officials also report Iran has been testing detonation of its nuclear-capable missiles by remote control while still in high-altitude flight...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: classified
“What’s a pre-state solid ignition?”

Ahh grasshopper, how old are you? Once upon a time, many, many decades ago, autos were not operated and managed by semiconductors. For their ignition systems, they utilized mechanical components to control firing order, electrical energy created via a coil and condenser, points and distributor to send charge to spark plugs, etc. A rather short and simple explanation but you can do further research if really interested. Anyway, this old and antiquated system would not be subject to radiation damage. But, not to worry, I think very soon there will be oodles of info on the Internet on how to “rad-harden” your car. Probably will cause a run on aluminum foil....

81 posted on 05/04/2010 6:01:55 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: x_plus_one

I am not being snide. This is an honest question.

Do you think that would necessarily be a bad thing?


82 posted on 05/04/2010 6:02:14 AM PDT by shibumi (Pablo (the Wily One) signed up for the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: P8riot

I wonder what percentage of people can actually replace and set points these days. I think I could still do it, and I still have a timing light.


83 posted on 05/04/2010 6:02:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Bad? Yes. 90% of Americans dead? Come on.

Actually, worse. 99.999999999999% of Americans will die.

It means that only one person will remain, and even he will be 99.99% dead.

84 posted on 05/04/2010 6:03:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: oh8eleven

The locust analogy is actually pretty close to dead on with one major problem.

In nature, locusts are just grasshoppers that undergo a biochemical transformation when their population reaches a certain density.

The urban locusts have become overpopulated because of government stripping the countryside for them. If the government gravy train were to suddenly fail to arrive, the locust population would fall and they would become grasshoppers.


85 posted on 05/04/2010 6:04:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: PA Engineer

Different times, I fear. Back then, men weren’t afraid to go out into the forests to hunt for food. Nowadays, the metrosexual libbies would be in fits, starving for food, and begging for scraps of meat from those of us who know how to care for ourselves.

In my area, there are enough squirrels to feed a family of 4 for weeks. Provided we’re at the last resort, pets can make adequate sustenance, and knowing the local flora can help you stay fed, albeit not forever.


86 posted on 05/04/2010 6:05:46 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Blueflag
It is real and would absolutely WRECK our power grid of long lines (essentially perfect antennae for the EMF of the pulses.)

The greatest vulnerabilities are the substation transformers. There are not that many spares stockpiled. I believe many local distribution transformers will survive.
87 posted on 05/04/2010 6:05:51 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: oh8eleven

Katrina’s aftermath was an example of what happens when people are indoctrinated into dependency.

90% is a high figure, but those who are “thinned out of the heard” will be those who have been trained to be dependent,
whilst those who have the mindset of taking care of themselves and their families will be more likely in the survivor category.


88 posted on 05/04/2010 6:06:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Mac n Jac

I have all three and they are all fun, informative reads.


89 posted on 05/04/2010 6:07:13 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies. Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ll worry about that tomorrow.


90 posted on 05/04/2010 6:07:18 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Yawn, not this crap again. Yes EMP is an issue but not the doomsday weapon. Ask yourself with all the nuclear testing that went on for years why didn’t stop the world? The Soviets did above ground and high altitude tests, we did above ground tests and not planes crashed etc.

EMP will kill all life in this and every other galaxy.

You don't want to mess with EMP.

EMP causes all matter to simply convert to energy, and immediately makes the energy dissipate to entropy.

Then things start getting tough.

91 posted on 05/04/2010 6:07:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: dfwgator

Regarding Connections, I took a “History of Technology” course in college that used the companion book as the primary text. We’d watch an episode, read the chapter, discuss, write papers, etc. I probably still have the book in a box in the basement. I really need to clean out the basement.


92 posted on 05/04/2010 6:08:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Gadsden1st

“Two or Three over N.Y. “

EMP doesn’t work like that. EMP is line-of-sight. Sufficiently powerful and high-enough, the EMP pulses ‘zap’ everything below it.

re: serious knowledge ... knowledgeable people will tell you that ONE DEVICE could knock out half the North American continent.

You can read One Second After in about three evenings. It’ll change your mind. It does slightly overstate the ability of EMP to fry hardened assets to set up a particular political leadership scenario, but otherwise, particularly sociologically, it’s spot on.


93 posted on 05/04/2010 6:08:56 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
"Bad? Yes. 90% of Americans dead? Come on."

Think Katrina all over with any external support disabled indefinitely.

94 posted on 05/04/2010 6:09:06 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: puppypusher

“That’s great to have an older car but it’s not worth much if you can’t pump the gas from the underground storage tanks.”

Ummm puppypusher, I can see that if the subject event should occur, you will need a best friend to guide you through. Getting fuel out of underground storage tanks will be the least of anyone’s worries. This one will be easy. Consider this as a little test, think about it - you can do this....


95 posted on 05/04/2010 6:09:26 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: All
Google the two 1962 nuclear space tests -- the US "Starfish Prime" and the "Soviet Test 184" Or "The K Project".

"Starfish Prime also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 1,445 kilometres (898 mi) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights, setting off numerous burglar alarms and damaging a telephone company microwave link."

"The geomagnetic storm-like E3 pulse (from the test designated as "Test 184") even induced an electrical current surge in a long underground power line that caused a fire in the power plant in the city of Karaganda."

It would no doubt be much, much worse today and over the east or west US coasts.

I wouldn't want to live in Detroit or Camden NJ when the lights go off -- but 90% dead in a year? I doubt that, even in Detroit or Camden.

96 posted on 05/04/2010 6:10:10 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: snoringbear

I think the term is actually called “pre Solid State Ignition”.


97 posted on 05/04/2010 6:10:24 AM PDT by halfright (My presidents picture is in the dictionary, next to the word, "rectum".)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I grew up in the South without AC. It was hot, but certainly livable. We used fans and sweated ;-)


98 posted on 05/04/2010 6:10:31 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: classified

condenser, points, mechanical distributor. Like your 1972 Triumph Spitfire ;-)


99 posted on 05/04/2010 6:11:22 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: dfwgator

I think hand pumps exist. if not, they will be invented.


100 posted on 05/04/2010 6:12:47 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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