Jupiter Moon's Ice-Covered Ocean Is Rich in Oxygen

Space.com ^ | Charles Q. Choi

[GonzoGOP]

there was a lot of policital cynicism in it that detracted from the message that we’re nto alone, and that those others are so alien that we simply cannot contemplate their existence.

Ya, but the Leonov was one of the coolest sci fi spaceships ever.

[camle]

that may be true, but Discovery had much better lighting, and for over nine years old, far superior computing technology.

not to mention cool-er eva pods;-)

[GonzoGOP]

far superior computing technology.

Superior is a relative term. As a computer programmer I have usually considered "Going Crazy and killing the crew" to be a strike against a computer system. That is usually the sort of bug you try to work out in beta testing.

[theDentist]

It was the last message from HAL in the movie “2010: The Year We Make Contact”...

[Frenchtown Dan]

I got it now, thanks. I thought you had made a typo and was referring to the original.

[camle]

ohyeah?? well the russians had nearly ten years to come up with a loco computer and did they??? NO! they had to have twenty or thirty technicians running the ship;-)

we did it ten years earlier with two PLUS an insane computer!

sorry, I’m laughing too hard!

[newfreep]

2010 was a pretty good sequel to 2001, one of my all time fav movies. I'm not so sure the message was from HAL as my understanding it was from the same source that created the monoliths found on the moon.

[theDentist]

Yes, "Dave Bowman" overrode HAL's orders and "told" it to transmit the message for as long as HAL was able. It was one of my favorites also. 2001, well, I thought the first half of that film was a study in boredom.

If you get a chance, look up 2010 on Wikipedia for some of the differences between the books and movie. That was where I found the quote.

[tnlibertarian]

Okay, let me see if I get it:

Humans breathe in oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide.
Plants take in carbon dioxide and produce oxygen.
So, oxygen and carbon dioxide are opposites.
Europa is very cold, covered in ice and full of oxygen.
Therefore, carbon dioxide causes global warming.

When can I expect my government grant?

[Frenchtown Dan]

You can apply to the Nobel Peace Prize commitee. They give awards and money for all sorts of whacky stuff. :)

[GonzoGOP]

ohyeah?? well the russians had nearly ten years to come up with a loco computer and did they??? NO! they had to have twenty or thirty technicians running the ship;-)

Welcome to the HAL 9000 automated help desk. Please say your name after the tone
[BEEP]

Greetings "Dave". For instructions on using your HAL 9000 system with flash video press 1. To play a nice game of chess press 2. If your HAL 9000 computer has gone insane and is trying to kill you press 3.
[BEEP]


You have pressed 3. However the HAL 9000 computer running the HAL 9000 help line cannot identify any faults with your HAL 9000 computer. If you would like to take a stress pill press 1. If being destroyed by your HAL 9000 is actually the correct course of action press 2. To talk to a human representative press 3.
[BEEP]

You have pressed 3 to talk to a human representative. Sorry Dave I can't let you do that. This conversation can no longer serve any useful purpose. Thank you for calling the HAL 9000 automated help line.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Frenchtown Dan.

There may be enough oxygen in the waters of Jupiter's moon Europa to support millions of tons worth of fish, according to a new study. And while nobody is suggesting there might actually be fish on Europa, this finding suggests the Jovian satellite could be capable of supporting the kinds of life familiar to us here on Earth, if only in microbial form.

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[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Frenchtown Dan.

There may be enough oxygen in the waters of Jupiter's moon Europa to support millions of tons worth of fish, according to a new study. And while nobody is suggesting there might actually be fish on Europa, this finding suggests the Jovian satellite could be capable of supporting the kinds of life familiar to us here on Earth, if only in microbial form.

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[Mmogamer]

It wasn’t HAL’s fault that it went nutty.

[bigheadfred]

Be a good jump off point for the great-great grandchildren to do some diamond mining in Jupiter. Too bad they will be working for the one world corporation, Obamaco. And that all their hard earned wons will be spent at the company store on Io. But it will prolly inspire a nice folk song “Io My Seoul To The Company Store”

[bigheadfred]

When can I expect my government grant?

Be CAREFUL with it. It's the last one they had....

[SunkenCiv]

That would be the Cho-sen way if Obama is doing the deciding.

[bigheadfred]

Since he is the Cho-sen One.

Why am I suddenly craving a Ramen?

How come you ain’t camping?

[wendy1946]

There are several places in our system which could easily have been inhabited in antediluvian times, at least by fish. Of the gas giant moons one of the more interesting is Iapetus:

Nature of course does not create planetary walls on great circle arcs. Hoagland thinks this was some sort of a death star or some such; my own theory is that there were demokkkrats or slammites or some such living on the place and the normal people guilt a wall and let the losers have their side of the place.

[Frenchtown Dan]

A very unusual formation. I’ve never seen this photo before, I’ll have to read more about Iapetus, very interesting.