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To: Grunthor

“Your daughter should have gotten up and used her little jew fists to pound the *hit out of that bully.”

The teacher interceded immediately. No time.

She is in Taekwondo currently (no Krac Maga nearby), but it does little good when you’re attacked out of the blue in kindergarden. One just does not expect that.

And our family are not wimps — I am a 10+ year veteran of the IAF, over six feet and solid, concealed carry guy (as is my wife — the carry part, not the veteran or six ).

It is, however, a delecate balance teaching a small child to defend herself — and not be the nut kid who punches other kids because they called you “poopy” or something.

It’s really affected her. She’s had disagreements, but never attacked.

I mean, who is attacked in kindergarden? Apparently little Jewish girls.


181 posted on 06/04/2010 2:15:24 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Apparently I’m the lone voice of dissent in this matter. Frankly, I believe that this is being blown way out of proportion. Kids say stupid things. When do they become mature enough whereby “I’m going to kill you” is a statement of no trifling import? I’ve had to stop adults from sayging that (for obvious reasons); what has been heard can not be unheard.

Suppose something - anything - happens to the other person: now I’m absolutely obligated to come foward with knowlege of a pre-existing threat. Moreover, we’ve all seen enough Hollywood to know that’s a perfect opportunity for some nepharious set-up; its just plain foolish to say something like that.

I wonder how much call there’d be for making police reports if instead of your child (a Jew), it was a black, asian, hispanic or person of Polish or Italian ethnicity who was the target? Where’s the common sense here? Kids say and to the darndesst things. There’s a time and place for police and CPS intervention; I doubt this was it.

These days if a first grade boy kisses one of the girls in his class, that’s sexual abuse? What are the ramifications to: “You’re parents are a couple of fags. Don’t come near me with your fag cooties or I’ll kill you.” Kids can say and do things, quite innocently, as they have no concept of the consequences. And thinking about how somebody else may feel about what they say or do isn’t natural (unless they’re naturally empathic).

That notwithstanding, you said the teacher immediately intervened. Without doubt the teacher immediately demanded an appology from the little cretin. Notwithstanding, she immediately should’ve been frog-marched to the principal’s office for a stern talking to.

The issue here is not so much what she said, or even did, but her vicious attitude against Jews and Christians in particular (not your daughter specifically). But regardless, her unprovoked blind-sided attack had to be addressed.

The school is accountable to maintaining a peaceable, non-threatening environment for all students (regardless of their ethnicity, race or religion). Depending on how repentant the other girl was, her recess priveleges could’ve been revoked for an appropriate amount of time. And that could’ve been the end of the matter. However, without any remorse expressed on her part, a call to her parent / gaurdian would be warranted.

Depending on the intial post-incident circumstances, sending a note home with the girl explaining the situation might’ve been sufficient. However, if the child is generally incorrigable in class, and in particular defiant to the authority figures present with respect to this particular situation, i.e., principle, teacher, playground monitor, then an immediate parent-teacher conference was called for. Its at that time, depending upon the parants response, that the child could be immediately suspended. Clearly the father’s response was no help in that matter.

If the parent refuses to address the issue appropriately, with at a minimum a verbal reprimant, and a demand that their daughter appologizes to your daughter, the school has no choice but to suspent the mniscreant. Depending on circumsances, e.g., an additional incident of physical violence could result in expulsion. That would probably be forthcoming in any regard, as I find it hard to believe there aren’t exigent discipline problems in her homeroom.

As far as the issue of martial arts training, first and foremost it should be fun for her, and secondarily disciplining the mind and body. The latter part being immensely important; physical fitness is extremely important to execute one’s martial arts skills without injury to one’s self. Moreover, advertisement of said training, i.e., bragging to one’s friends, is contrary to the whole philosophy of martial arts. It is a confidence builder (fear being a mind-killer), discipline for the mind and body and providing skills necessary for defence, and also being a force multiplier whereby a much larger & stronger adversary can be handled. Down the road rape would be a quite improbable event.

That being said, I hope you’re not pressing her into the taekwondo. The choice should be hers entirely. At that age her main interest would be coloring and playing with dollies I would imagine. No way should you force her to continue training when it ceases to be fun for her. You may have to offer encouragement from time to time if she expresses disinterest in continuing to take classes.

Nevertheless, you while she’s taking classes you definitely should ensure she maintains an excercise regimin - appropriate for her 6 year old age and skill level - between classes. I’m certain the instructore will assign the appropriate standard fare: pushups, sit-ups, toe touches, etc. Whatever is assigned, you make sure she follows through on. When I was taking ju-jitsu training in 4th grade, Dad watched me go through my excercises on a weekly basis, and he expected improvement in that regard too. That was the only pressure I was under - to do my excercises - while I was taking classes (not being forced to take classes themselves).

Long and short of it, I’m glad the situation appears to be resolved. I just hope your little girl didn’t see you bring the firearm with you when you took her to school. That’s the last message you want to impart with respect to conflict resolution. We do live in crazy times and being able to defend yourself against a potential fanatic probably is warranted.

In this multi-cultural, multi-ethnic tolerant society, the other girl is headed for a whole lotta trouble down the road (unless she spends the rest of her academic life in a madrassa).


190 posted on 06/05/2010 10:44:32 AM PDT by raygun
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