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6/14/10 | hoagy62

Posted on 06/14/2010 1:19:25 PM PDT by hoagy62

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To: HospiceNurse
I am leaving for a long while. The crazy religionists and vanity posts make me wish I was a liberal.

Or you could simply stay off those threads and stick to reading and posting to subjects you like. It's like TV -- I can't stand MSNBC and CNN, so I don't watch them.

41 posted on 06/14/2010 1:45:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: hoagy62

Call A Lawyer... Now!


42 posted on 06/14/2010 1:46:41 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: DManA

He said that he couldn’t remember anything like that happening.


43 posted on 06/14/2010 1:47:05 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: MindBender26

He says he received the friend request FROM HER, and assumed it was because of the upcoming reunion. He also says there were NO messages from her to him before that night.

I’m also beginning to think this is an extortion attempt.


44 posted on 06/14/2010 1:47:34 PM PDT by hoagy62 (.)
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To: hoagy62
The original claim is most likely of no consequence.

But it does sound like the woman's sister (doing the postings) is a threat.

Best advice is to make no further contact, comment, or acknowledgment. If she approaches him again, he should be friendly, and behave as if he does not know what she is talking about. Do not engage or react. Exit when asap.

45 posted on 06/14/2010 1:49:08 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: hoagy62

The 30 year old memory of a 12 year old girl of a non-crime with no evidence, lots of denials, no witnesses, no police reports and a supportive wife?

Apparently the only thing your friend is concerned about is his own poor memory and some seeds of doubt that have been planted.

Because there is no possibility of successful legal action against him on any front.

My advice:
1) Explain that he is a very decent guy who would be concerned when anyone appears mad at him. There are a lot of evil people in the world seeking to exploit people like your friend.

2) Stop talking to this person on Facebook, or get off of Facebook all together.


46 posted on 06/14/2010 1:51:09 PM PDT by kidd
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To: hoagy62
According to this woman, her sister just recently revealed to her that she remembers this guy (my friend) trying to get him to touch his genitals.

I think the above sentence does not involve the younger sister at all.

It's no crime (yet) to touch one's genitals.

47 posted on 06/14/2010 1:51:28 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (You can only get smarter by engaging a smarter opponent.)
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To: hoagy62

“The conversation ended with him saying that IF anything happened...and if it did it was totally unintentional...that he was sorry for her BUT,,,,”

Review the video, “never talk to the police” for an easy tutorial on how that exchange alone will be twisted into a “confession”. He should never speak a word to that woman again. EVER, in person, on the phone, and not on facebook.

Whether or not the woman is psycho or mistaken. She sounds like shes on a jihad,, she’s beyond reason.


48 posted on 06/14/2010 1:52:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: hoagy62

This sounds like the cyber version of being accused of rape. Simply ask “you are making a serious charge, do you have any evidence; as I consider this slander”. Reverse the aggression, bullies don’t respect weakness, and this woman sounds like a seriously disturbed bully.

Who goes on Facebook, asks to be a friend with a person they suspect molested their sister? Does that sound like a rational person?

So, chose to drop that person from your account, I believe the term is “Ignore”; then if you get a message - take the aggressive approach. Accusations of Slander, extortion and harassment are applicable in this situation, IMHO.

If he did nothing, he’s being forced into a sitution that is literally impossible to prove. How does one prove their innocence? Simply stated, you can not do this.

What you can do, is state that nothing happened .... PERIOD. Accusations to the contrary are harassment, slander and can easily lead to extortion. Tell her that she is not to communicat with him at any time henceforth, and that such an attempt will be met with a restraining order, and legal action against her.

If nothing else, it will make him feel better; knowing that he is not helpless in this matter. He does have alternatives to simply ignoring her, and feeling shamed into admitting something that did not happen.


49 posted on 06/14/2010 1:53:34 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Stay away from crazy bitches.”

What you said!! Amen,,,


50 posted on 06/14/2010 1:53:54 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Professional
"WHy anyone in their right mind is involved with facebook or myspace, etc, is beyond me."

Chicks, man.

Seriously though - having spent 11 years in the Army, Facebook has helped me get back in touch with many friends I had lost track of over the years.

Of course, on the other hand, it has helped other people get in touch with me. Yikes.

51 posted on 06/14/2010 1:54:56 PM PDT by RabidBartender (The hardest part about tending bar is figuring out who's drunk and who's just stupid.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The sentence SHOULD have read “tried to get HER to touch his...”

My proof-reading should have been better.


52 posted on 06/14/2010 1:56:04 PM PDT by hoagy62 (.)
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To: gundog

Not so fast either. If this gets spun into some kind of sexual assault, he could even STILL be prosecuted criminally. In many states the statute of limitations stops if you “flee” the state.

Say it had a stature of limitations of 6 years,, and two years after the incident, he left the state. That will be him “fleeing”. This is deadly serious and he needs to never speak about it, ever,,, to anyone except on advice of counsel.


53 posted on 06/14/2010 1:57:09 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Hodar
Simply ask “you are making a serious charge, do you have any evidence; as I consider this slander”. Reverse the aggression, bullies don’t respect weakness..

Very good advice.

54 posted on 06/14/2010 1:57:13 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Professional
Why anyone in their right mind is involved with facebook or myspace, etc, is beyond me.

I guess it is OK for young folks but why a middle aged guy would be into this stuff is beyond me. Social networking sounds creepy to me. Like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

55 posted on 06/14/2010 1:58:51 PM PDT by Upstate NY Guy (Gen 15:16 The iniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete.)
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To: hoagy62
1. Stay away from Facebook.

2. Cut all ties with the people involved.

3. Forget it.

Statue of limitations is way past. A civil suit for “recalled memories” will most likely go nowhere.

56 posted on 06/14/2010 1:59:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: hoagy62

Trust me on this. I'm a lawyer.

Completely cease ANY communication with the other party or anyone else regarding this matter. Print off paper copies of what has already been said, but show it to no one other than "his" lawyer. Make no further posts on FR regarding this. Call a lawyer in your jurisdiction now, and DO NOT take any advice from FR.

The above is not to be considered legal advice. Legal advice must be obtained from a lawyer familiar with your situation and licensed in your jurisdiction.

57 posted on 06/14/2010 2:03:58 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Idiotic legal advice.

Cease and desist any communication!

Way too many people talk themselves into jail.


58 posted on 06/14/2010 2:05:04 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: hoagy62
Advise him to get an attorney, even just to run the story by one.
59 posted on 06/14/2010 2:07:05 PM PDT by JSteff ((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Sorry about word “idiotic,” but NO further contact is essential.


60 posted on 06/14/2010 2:07:15 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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