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Question to Birthers about Grandma Dunham's Alleged Fraud
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Posted on 07/09/2010 4:03:53 PM PDT by curiosity

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To: SC Swamp Fox
I don't know what he age cut-off was but as a young minor I was allowed to travel with my parents on their passport.

Nope. If you didn't have your own passport, then you must have travelled with them on a family passport, which would have listed you and any other children in the family, and which could only be otained before going abroad.

21 posted on 07/09/2010 4:23:30 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Mortrey
Just wondering...why do you agitate birthers today?

Because it's fun.

Aren’t there more important topics to deal with?

Yes. I'm just addicted.

22 posted on 07/09/2010 4:25:11 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Diogenesis

Why is Mitt Romney not eligible?


23 posted on 07/09/2010 4:25:46 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: curiosity

Naturalized and Natural Born are distinctly different.


24 posted on 07/09/2010 4:25:59 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: curiosity

Your post indicates that you are attempting to mislead a lot of people here on FR.

There is, and I am sure you are aware of this a difference between NBC and naturalized citizen.

But of course you know that.


25 posted on 07/09/2010 4:27:20 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: curiosity
And how are those relevant to his eligibility?

To me the point is that all of these issues and questions have far more to do with his integrity and credibility than they do eligibility...

His furtive, enigmatic past has no business in the White House. His past should be an open book. Same with all presidents.

With brocko, we are not told where he's been, what he did, nor how he did it; and we're forbidden to look into it. The press, obviously, has no interest in looking into it. That's why we do. When someone acts like they're hiding something, they generally are.

26 posted on 07/09/2010 4:28:21 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: curiosity
So she committed fraud just in case her half-black grandson might want to run for president?

So what is really your game here?

You cannot seriously expect anyone to give an answer to her motives, or that of his mother.

27 posted on 07/09/2010 4:28:31 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: curiosity

His eligibility doesn’t rest upon his place of birth, which means while the BC is interesting, its not the key. The key hides in plain sight. He is (probably) native born but not natural born. His dad was not a US citizen. Hence as you say the BC controversy may actually serve O’s interest since it diverts attention from his real problem.

Second he was given Indonesian citizenship as a child. You are generally allowed dual citizenship during childhood but once you reach adulthood you have to choose. Hence the question, what passport did he use when he traveled during his college years. And, hence, it is off limits.

Thirdly, the question then arises, what citizenship did he claim in college. Again, its a question easily answered but unanswered. His school records are off limits.

There are other things, pages missing from divorce decrees and so forth, you’ve probably seen the list of several dozen items he won’t release. They may in fact not impinge upon his eligibility to be president.


28 posted on 07/09/2010 4:28:43 PM PDT by marron
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To: curiosity
So help me out, birthers. What am I missing?

PROOF!


29 posted on 07/09/2010 4:29:21 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: trumandogz

The question is “which” passport did he use. Indonesian, or US.


30 posted on 07/09/2010 4:30:21 PM PDT by marron
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To: curiosity
Once back in the states, under Title III, section 322 Bambi would be eligible for natuarlization.

The correct term is naturalized. A person seeking to be President cannot be a naturalized American. He or she must be a natural born citizen(Born in the U.S. to American citizens).
31 posted on 07/09/2010 4:30:42 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: curiosity

Why do you come to this forum and bring up theories
and conjecture and them make fun of people who comment
about your theories? Do you work for the opposition?
Are you a plant? One of your comments refers to
Obama enjoying birthers and that it also helps him.
What are you here for? Are you here to help the
(nasty) one or to expose his evil and treasonous
ways? What’s the deal?


32 posted on 07/09/2010 4:31:38 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

“I don’t know what he age cut-off was but as a young minor I was allowed to travel with my parents on their passport.”

1962 - ‘66 My young sister traveled on my mother’s passport.


33 posted on 07/09/2010 4:33:03 PM PDT by DDLL
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To: curiosity
Even McCain's birthright has been questioned and investigated. But he was cleared because he was born on U.S territory.

The rest I will let the reader figure out, but frankly speaking, it's way too late.

BTW, what should we call the people who questioned McCain's Qualifications under the Constitution.

Nutcases? Sorta-birthers.....

Re-read, assuming you ever read the Constitution's language regarding qualifications for President and place of birth.

34 posted on 07/09/2010 4:33:11 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: IYAS9YAS
"Naturalized and Natural Born are distinctly different."

DING! DING! DING!

We have a WINNAH !

Don't cloud the issue with reason here; they're poking fun at those who KNOW what the Constitution says.....

35 posted on 07/09/2010 4:33:14 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Doulos1
re: Doulos1 nailing the RomneyCARE-supporting RomneyBOT.

BINGO.


36 posted on 07/09/2010 4:35:58 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: curiosity

Well then, here....have some “fun” with this.
And, get back to us, ok? I’d like to hear your thoughts on why this was done....enjoy yourself!

Two different Official Certification of Nomination letters submitted by Nancy Pelosi and a woman named Alice Travis Germond

(Alice Travis Germond is the secretary of the 2008 Democratic National Convention (DNC)).

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd467.htm


37 posted on 07/09/2010 4:37:08 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: curiosity

After some thought, I see a practical reason for someone to insure he had proof of citizenship namely child custody jurisdiction.

The normal laws of states at that time is that a child born in wedlock would be a citizen of the state where the father is a citizen. An exception would be if the child was born out of wedlock and then it would be the mom’s state.

If there was a concern that custody issues would arise, the mom would be much better off if the child was a US citizen rather than an immigrant (think Cuba and Elian).

So I take back my original granting of your premise and disagree with your reasoning. However, the exercise is still irrelevant for me because I think the weight of the evidence is that he was born in Hawaii.


38 posted on 07/09/2010 4:37:45 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Diogenesis

Don’t feed the trolls.


39 posted on 07/09/2010 4:37:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: curiosity

Nothing so nefarious, but I wonder if Mama Dunham wasn’t a little worried about Kenyan national and British citizen daddy, who wasn’t legally married to her daughter taking the boy back with him at some point and wanted to insure that he was on the books as a U.S. Citizen.

Just a theory, of course, your mileage may vary.


40 posted on 07/09/2010 4:38:50 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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