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Border Collie: The smartest breed on the planet? [video]
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Posted on 07/18/2010 7:28:05 AM PDT by mlizzy

Click to view video.Border Collies are considered by many to be one of the most intelligent and trainable dog breeds. Though they are wonderful companions, they require a lot of exercise and training.

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KEYWORDS: bordercollies; collies; corgis; dogs; labs; pets; shelties; shepherds
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Addy_7-17-10Our border collie mix (seems likely her other half is German shepherd) spent her first year of life as the Chick Evans dorm dog at the University of Illinois. Much like Professor Howell, however, she was not asked to return in the fall, so after we cared for her on her summer vacation (and although things were a little hairy for a while), she is now a much beloved pet in our clan ...

"Although I'm no longer a dorm dog, I was able to go back to UIllinois (for my master's graduation last May) and sleep in his dorm room over the weekend and tear up and down the hallways. Ahhh, the good ol' days, but I like my new pad as well (they finally figured out I need to do "puzzles" everyday to keep me from chewing them out of house and hot dog) ..." --Addy, aka dorm dog.


1 posted on 07/18/2010 7:28:07 AM PDT by mlizzy
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To: mlizzy

They go crazy if you dont give them something to do. I’ve seen them before just spinning round and round for no apparent reason.


2 posted on 07/18/2010 7:31:33 AM PDT by weezel
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To: mlizzy
Border Collies are usually very bright.

My wife chastises me every time I say it but our last two Goldens haven't been the sharpest knives in the drawer

4 posted on 07/18/2010 7:32:55 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: mlizzy

I had a border collie and now a standard poodle - the poodle is a better house dog and quite smart, almost like having a person here, and clean, doesn’t shed at all or smell much. But I suspect the border collie was actually smarter - which is saying a lot.


5 posted on 07/18/2010 7:33:14 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: mlizzy
I could not agree more.

Our female Border / Lab mix is the smartest dog we have ever had. She is 15 years-old and still going like the energizer bunny! She loves to watch "Animal Planet" on TV.

6 posted on 07/18/2010 7:33:18 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: weezel
They go crazy if you dont give them something to do. I’ve seen them before just spinning round and round for no apparent reason.
*smiles* ... For that reason (well there were others too:)), I was in tears when I found out she couldn't return to school ... but now, things are cool ... we keep her busy ...
7 posted on 07/18/2010 7:34:48 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: weezel

I used to watch the Border Collies round up sheep in the farmer’s field next to my house in Dunoon, Scotland. We were stationed in Holy Loch at the sub base. They have to be the smartest dogs in the world, because the farmers would just whistle and they’d change direction at the drop of a dime. ....very cool


8 posted on 07/18/2010 7:35:40 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Black and Free!)
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To: mlizzy
I have had two Border Collies over the past 17 years. They are great dogs BUT you had better have the time to exercise them daily. I'm not talking about a 15 minute walk either. They need to work and play hard. If not they can get weird and destructive. They do best when they have a job.
9 posted on 07/18/2010 7:36:08 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: mlizzy

In a dog nation, Border Collies would make great cabinet secretaries and advisers, but a German Shepherd would make the best president.


10 posted on 07/18/2010 7:36:08 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: KeyLargo

Is that a photo of your dog? I think they can live to 20 or so, correct? Ours is amazingly sturdy looking as well — solid as a rock ...


11 posted on 07/18/2010 7:37:52 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

I own three Boxers...but their best friend is a Border Collie. The Border Collie is smarter than all three Boxers put together! She will outsmart them everytime.
My Boxers are too full of dopey LOVE to object!


12 posted on 07/18/2010 7:38:40 AM PDT by barbarianbabs (Liberty 5-3000)
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To: brwnsuga
I used to watch the Border Collies round up sheep in the farmer’s field next to my house in Dunoon, Scotland. We were stationed in Holy Loch at the sub base. They have to be the smartest dogs in the world, because the farmers would just whistle and they’d change direction at the drop of a dime. ....very cool
I would LOVE to see that!!
13 posted on 07/18/2010 7:39:38 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

14 posted on 07/18/2010 7:45:21 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

The rabbit looks to be a bit worried.


15 posted on 07/18/2010 7:47:13 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: mlizzy

Border Collies do need to feel like they are working! So we have a big back yard and she takes us on 2 mile “walks” every morning. However she flunked out of dog school when she was younger, because she wanted to be in charge of all of the other dogs.

Border Collie Sheepdog & Amazing Cute Puppy Movie Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2c-Qre7k2A&feature=PlayList&p=5D6B833E7FB913FA&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=16


16 posted on 07/18/2010 7:47:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: mlizzy
You never met my late lab. Smartest, sweetest dog ever and could flush vermin REALLY fast.

That being said, all breeds have their pluses and minuses. The Havaneses that rule the house are smart and run herding circles and don't shed (do require shaving down at least twice a year), but they also are LOUD watch dogs and one of them is downright impertinent. Love them anyway.

17 posted on 07/18/2010 7:48:16 AM PDT by Desdemona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg3cshE_HbU)
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To: Aria
I had a border collie and now a standard poodle - the poodle is a better house dog and quite smart, almost like having a person here, and clean, doesn’t shed at all or smell much. But I suspect the border collie was actually smarter - which is saying a lot.
Someone left a list of smart dog breeds (according to the experts), on another thread, and it had border collie as #1 and standard poodle as #2. A friend of mine has a poodle because her husband is allergic, so that's a nice factor as well. But in addition to our lab, I love our bc-mix. She's a hoot, but requires at least two hours of exercise and about 30 minutes (more would be better!) of active "puzzling" a day.
18 posted on 07/18/2010 7:48:26 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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See some border collies at work here ... in a very unique way :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdUspvkKOmw

Be sure to have the sound on :)

Originally from the telegraph.co.uk website.


19 posted on 07/18/2010 7:48:38 AM PDT by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I'd also want a German Shepherd appointed Secretary of Defense.
20 posted on 07/18/2010 7:51:27 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: mlizzy
Photobucket Photobucket I'm a little partial to Corgis...For some shots of Dagny, go here... http://picasaweb.google.com/jimro1951/Dagny#
21 posted on 07/18/2010 7:51:34 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: brwnsuga

When I was a child, my grandfather had a border collie that could get the cows by itself. Sent but not supervised.

More recently, I have driven across the Navajo reservation at Monument Valley and out in the middle of nowhere seen two border collies moving a herd of sheep along the road.

No barking or running that I observed just a slow steady pace. The dogs did, however, look disgusted even pissed as though there might have been earlier chastisement of some sort for the 18 thousandth time on the same flock of sheep taking the same routine trip. :-)


22 posted on 07/18/2010 7:52:17 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: KeyLargo
However she flunked out of dog school when she was younger, because she wanted to be in charge of all of the other dogs.
*laughing* Yep!! When "Addy" first arrived, it was not a glorious meeting with our same-aged lab. In fact, within about an hour or two, we were on the line with our vet, asking if the bc-mix (we didn't know she was a border collie at the time) could stay at the vet until we found someone else to care for her. The vet, said, "give it some time," and gave us some tips. Addy is still very much in charge, but she's more "clever" about it, and things are working out much better.
23 posted on 07/18/2010 7:52:40 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

I follow my mutt around and pick up his poop. An objective observer would say muttsky is the smarter of the two.


24 posted on 07/18/2010 7:52:40 AM PDT by DManA
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To: mlizzy
Its true. They are the smartest dogs out there. I foster Border Collies and they are indeed not for the novice owner. Like any herding breed, they need a job to do or they will become destructive.

I have two Belgian Sheepdogs (see profile page) and while they are also incredibly smart, high drive herding dogs, they aren't close to the Border Collie in terms of intelligence. But, mine are both K9 athletes just like the BCs, and my boy has already beat other BCs in flyball (he's blazing fast).

LIke BCs, mine are a constant project as I find new ways for them to work and learn. They LOVE to learn, whether its a new sport, trick, etc. Again, these high drive herding breeds are not for the faint at heart. Many BCs end up in rescues/shelters because people buy them for the cute/smart factor, and fail to realize the training that's involved.

The BC that's featured in the video is a called a Blue. They're pretty rare, actually. The standard BC is usually black and white- and its the only coat variation recognized by the AKC, which is a shame because there are some beautiful coat variations out there. One of the BC on our flyball team is a black/blue merle with the most intense ice blue eyes I've ever seen. And talk about 'the eye'. When I first met her, I swear I peed just a little. She is the sweetest thing, though. Her sister is a black/white with blue eyes, and is the epitome of smart. She's beyond onyx level in flyball but got to the point where it was no longer a challenge to her so she started inventing her own game. She had a year off from flyball until I started running her. Although she's had a few 'my own game' moments, she has excelled in races once again and is always a crowd favorite for her intensity. She's incredibly happy doing the 'work' she enjoys most.

BTW, anyone in the Midwest who is interested in adopting a rescue BC, there's a beautiful Blue BC boy who needs a forever home. FReepmail me for details.

25 posted on 07/18/2010 7:53:48 AM PDT by rintense
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To: annie laurie
Extreme Sheepherding ... I love it (ty)!
26 posted on 07/18/2010 7:57:48 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

Glad you enjoyed it :) I did, too ... those dogs are truly amazing!


27 posted on 07/18/2010 7:59:07 AM PDT by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: Desdemona

I’ve never heard of the Havanese breed ... until now.:)

Yes, labs are wonderfully intelligent, too. We’ve had three (still have one!). Wonderful breed. And ours bows to the border collie which is good; otherwise, the “relationship” wouldn’t work out ...


28 posted on 07/18/2010 8:03:29 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Farmer Dean
The rabbit looks to be a bit worried.
And rightfully so ... :)
29 posted on 07/18/2010 8:04:28 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: latina4dubya

Ping


30 posted on 07/18/2010 8:09:07 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: gorush

Yes, Corgis are great dogs. We’ve had two Pems.


31 posted on 07/18/2010 8:09:35 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: weezel
Great dogs! Recently I had 6 dogs in my house, my two mini schnauzzers, daughter's lab and beagle, other daughters staffordshire pitt, and my son's border collie...most obnoxious-schnauzzers, sweetest-pitt, smartest-border collie.
32 posted on 07/18/2010 8:09:55 AM PDT by coloradomomba (BO stinks!)
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To: gorush
DagnyI read a great book on gardening and the woman who wrote it (can't remember her name!) was nuts about corgis ... she had a few of them (and they were well depicted in the book; yours is beautiful btw), and I hope it's ok I grabbed a shot of Dagny and posted it here. Looks a bit like a watch dog in this photo ...
33 posted on 07/18/2010 8:14:07 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
I had an Australian red border collie for 12 years. It may have been a mix, but I kind of doubt it. I had planned to get him DNA tested to find out if he was a pure breed, but he died before I could.

He was highest energy dog I have ever known, with the most obvious natural herding instinct. They can be destructive as puppies, with sharp teeth, and a lot of nervous energy.

They are definitely not good around small children, but mine was the most loving dog me or any of my friends and family had ever known.

34 posted on 07/18/2010 8:15:30 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Slings and Arrows

Pets ping


36 posted on 07/18/2010 8:16:19 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: mlizzy
Havanese are very sweet dogs, and very athletic, but at the same time, they are still a toy breed and the original purpose was for companionship. That makes personality predominant. In this case, that means tricks, being clowns, leaping distances, announcing themselves at PetSmart, standing on their hind legs forever, etc.

The ones that rule this house are actually heavier than breed standard, one has a curly coat, and more flaws for the ring, but they make nice pets. They respond to training about like other smart breeds and it has taken about three years to get them to right about the right place, just like the lab. And, just like their much larger cousins, the first thing they do after a bath is find something dead to roll in. That's one thing I miss about the lab. She didn't do that.

37 posted on 07/18/2010 8:17:11 AM PDT by Desdemona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg3cshE_HbU)
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To: weezel; mlizzy

“They go crazy if you dont give them something to do. I’ve seen them before just spinning round and round for no apparent reason.”

Not true. I had a poodle as a kid that would do that, and he was the dumbest dog that ever lived. We used to joke he was looking for a second brain cell, but never found it.

A working-bred Border Collie MUST be able to be very quiet for long periods of time. A hyper farm dog gets shot. Based on the two I’ve owned (including the 18-month old lying on my feet right now), what they NEED is to be with people. My current Border Collie cheerfully stays at the side of his people, curled up for hours on end - ready to go if they do, but content to relax as well.

I can’t speak to Border Collies raised for use as sport dogs, etc - I wouldn’t own one.

http://www.bordercollie.org/core.html


38 posted on 07/18/2010 8:21:43 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: rintense
Your Belgian Sheepdogs are beautiful. Another breed I know little about. Thanks for all the information on border collies. Our bc-mix almost landed in a shelter herself. But we work her hard now; she loves playing tennis, and it's an absolute hoot. She "positions" herself at net (she seems to prefer the deuce court) when I'm messing around playing doubles with my husband and our lab. I wonder what the commuters think when they go by on the nearby passing train.
39 posted on 07/18/2010 8:27:22 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: rintense

“I foster Border Collies and they are indeed not for the novice owner. Like any herding breed, they need a job to do or they will become destructive.”

Arghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Border Collies may become destructive if they are poorly bred or if they are left alone without human companions. A Border Collie bred for work is energetic, but not hyper - and they can relax for days at a time. The only job they need is to be with their people. They don’t do well left alone in an apartment or house day after day.


40 posted on 07/18/2010 8:27:23 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: traderrob6
but our last two Goldens haven't been the sharpest knives in the drawer

A lot of working breeds are ruined because breeders want "Show Dogs" instead of breeding for working traits. If you're buying a dog for working/hunting then better to buy the offspring of "field trial" champions than Show Dogs.

41 posted on 07/18/2010 8:30:09 AM PDT by Timocrat
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To: mlizzy

They are great dogs but I am partial to Cairn Terriers. Ours is smart as a whip, intensely devoted, friendly, cheerful, and this big dog in a little body breed has no major health issues. He’s a great little hunter. I can pick him up and carry him as needed and he fits in the sink when I bathe him. His food is cheaper, his “dooty” is smaller, and he’s easier to groom.


42 posted on 07/18/2010 8:31:45 AM PDT by Melian ( God is even kinder than you think. ~St. Teresa)
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To: Mr Rogers

Yes.

BC’s can be great family pets and bond with their human owners just like other dogs. Our BC loves kids and yes she sleeps a lot and always has, just like other dogs.

“Border Collies may become destructive if they are poorly bred or if they are left alone without human companions. A Border Collie bred for work is energetic, but not hyper - and they can relax for days at a time. The only job they need is to be with their people. They don’t do well left alone in an apartment or house day after day.”


43 posted on 07/18/2010 8:32:55 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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I'm still crying..

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44 posted on 07/18/2010 8:33:46 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: magellan
"They are definitely not good around small children...."

ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 07/18/2010 8:33:50 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: mlizzy

A few days ago a 2 1/2 y.o. border collie/lab/aussie shepherd mix tried to adopt me. I figured good dog for trail running, but I’m on the road a lot on business, and it would not be a good dog to leave home alone. Plus I have no yard.


46 posted on 07/18/2010 8:34:49 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: Ikemeister
Dagny is our second Pem. If you load the picasa page I mentioned you can see the first although he has since passed at 14.3 wonderful yrs. Here is a shot of Jake in his earlier years

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47 posted on 07/18/2010 8:35:39 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Melian
his “dooty” is smaller ...
My friend's husband hunts regularly and wanted a lab so badly, but his wife won the discussion and they have rat terriers (one bit my son; you can't play around with them like labs); she would always remind him, "little dogs, little poops, big dogs, big mess ..."

The Cairn Terriers are very cute ... I looked them up ...
48 posted on 07/18/2010 8:37:17 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
My Roxie

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>yawn< I'm up too late ....

49 posted on 07/18/2010 8:42:12 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Am Molly Norris")
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To: Mr Rogers

It takes a lot of training to suppress the herding instinct. Sitting still is not a problem. But get a 3-4 year old kid running around in the back yard, and the instinct of the border collie is going to be to run down the lost sheep. It is highly entertaining for the adults on the deck drinking beer and watching, but can be less fun for the kid.


50 posted on 07/18/2010 8:43:59 AM PDT by magellan
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