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1 posted on 08/22/2010 8:36:43 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 08/22/2010 8:38:29 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: steelyourfaith

More on the paper by Josh Willis of CalTech.


3 posted on 08/22/2010 8:38:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But, but ...but Art Bell said it would stop any day.

Four years ago.


4 posted on 08/22/2010 8:40:57 AM PDT by shibumi (Pablo is Miley- wily, clever and detractive as all get out!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

tab for later


5 posted on 08/22/2010 8:43:23 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ummm.... Nevermind!


6 posted on 08/22/2010 8:53:33 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (You can force me to recycle, but I will NOT sing the song!)
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Related thread ....:

Ocean Conveyor Belt Confounds Climate Science

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theresilientearth.com ^ | Thu, 04/08/2010 - 14:27 | Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman

Posted on Sun 22 Aug 2010 08:15:56 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), also known as the “Ocean Conveyor Belt,” has been the subject of much study since its discovery. The AMOC is primarily responsible for Europe's temperate climate and some scientists have warned that global warming could cause the ocean's flow to slow down or even stop. This rather counter intuitive result of a warming climate would result in a much colder Europe—perhaps even a new mini-ice age. A new analysis of data from satellites and drifting sensors finds no evidence that the conveyor belt is slowing. In fact, a NASA backed study indicates that the conveyor is far less susceptible to throttling by climate change than some climate change alarmists feared.

The heat transported by the AMOC makes a substantial contribution to the moderate climate of maritime and continental Europe. Scientists have long feared that any significant slowdown in the overturning circulation would have profound implications for climate change. In a 2005 Nature paper, “Slowing of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation at 25°N,” Harry L. Bryden, Hannah R. Longworth and Stuart A. Cunningham analyzed temperature and salinity measurements made during five brief ship surveys between 1957 and 2004. These data seemed to indicate that the northward flow of the Atlantic conveyor suffered a 30% decline in volume around the turn of the century. These findings led to warnings that a scenario similar to the disaster film The Day After Tomorrow could be just around the corner.

“'Mini Ice Age' May Be Coming Soon, Sea Study Warns,” was the headline on the National Geographic News site. “Chilling new evidence from the Atlantic Ocean is raising fears that western Europe could soon be gripped by a mini ice age,” reported their 2005 news article. “The study supports computer model predictions suggesting that global warming will switch off the North Atlantic current in the next 50 to 100 years.” But even in 2005, it was noted that the magnitude of these findings did not seem to match up with observed climate variation.

11 posted on 08/22/2010 9:00:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Another one of the precepts of the AGW cult dogma bites the dust. But, as long as the government grants keep flowing, they will come up with something to replace it.


13 posted on 08/22/2010 9:10:50 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This overturning is one part of the vast conveyor belt of ocean currents

A vast right-wing conveyancy!

14 posted on 08/22/2010 9:14:49 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What a relief!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

16 posted on 08/22/2010 9:18:17 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Highly interesting.

They are looking, looking everywhere and can’t find anything that confirms big-time global warming, much less man-made global warning.

Eh.


22 posted on 08/22/2010 10:16:10 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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ping.


23 posted on 08/22/2010 10:17:05 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Paul Pierett

ping


25 posted on 08/22/2010 10:22:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hmmm. So that means that even after the NATURAL warming of the earth in the period from the late 1980s to the early 2000s, there still wasn’t substantial enough melting of glaciers to disrupt the Atlantic Conveyor? Good to know.


27 posted on 08/22/2010 10:49:14 AM PDT by SuziQ
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“Scientists hypothesize that rapid cooling 12,000 years ago at the end of the last ice age was triggered when freshwater from melting glaciers altered the ocean’s salinity and slowed the overturning rate.”

Now I’m neither a rocket surgeon or brain scientist, so I’m probably rather confused during good times, but I’m trying to understand how there could be a “rapid cooling” at the “end of the last ice age”. I’ve always thought that it was cold during the ice ages with warming coming as they ended. Now these “scientists” say that there was a rapid cooling as it was warming up coming out of the ice age.

Can anyone ‘splain this in plain idiot terms or is this just a global warmist reporter moron’s (but I repeat myself) normal misrepresentation or misinterpretation of the facts of the story and trying to throw in some of his AGW talking points to try to counter the factual data he’s reporting on that doesn’t fit his agenda? (Sorta like putting his fingers in his ears and singing la-la-la-la loudly when anyone tries to show him factual data.)

I know there are “fluctuations” in the temperatures, but rising temps causing the ending of an ice age wouldn’t seem to me to be compatible with “rapid cooling” at the same time. Wouldn’t that bring back the ice age conditions that were just “ending”?


31 posted on 08/22/2010 11:29:26 AM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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