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WATCH: Police Kill Man In Drug Raid Gone Wrong
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Posted on 01/18/2011 2:17:18 PM PST by darkside321

Utah police shot and killed a man within seconds of storming his parents' home, video of the raid shows. The police had a warrant to search for drugs, but found only a small amount of pot and an empty vial that had apparently contained meth.

Local media report that Todd Blair, 45, was a drug addict rather than a dealer, according to friends and family.

In the video, Blair can be seen holding a golf club above his head as police smash through his door. Within seconds, without demanding Blair drop the iron or lay down, Weber-Morgan Strike Force Sgt. Troy Burnett fires three shots into him. The local prosecutor has deemed the killing justified, but his family is planning a federal lawsuit, arguing that police had plenty of alternatives.

Blair's death raises the question of why multiple heavily-armed officers were sent to raid a drug addict -- and why Weber and Morgan counties in Utah would even need a "Narcotics Strike Force." Local police forces are able to keep to property they seize in drug raids, often without the necessity of a conviction, creating a perverse incentive to reinvest in military equipment and carry out additional raids.

The killer, Sgt. Burnett, had previously told a law-enforcement magazine that he and fellow officers were trained to shoot quickly and at close range. Burnett had previously put the training to use by shooting and killing an armed suspect in 2008.

"Maybe a month before this [2008 shooting], we did our qualification and this kind of scenario was played out in live fire training where we had to quickly draw and fire at close range," Burnett said at the time. "It wasn't quite identical, but it was close...

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To: GlockThe Vote
And what if the guy was a drunk instead?

If the guy had been a drunk, rather than a drag abuser, the odds that the police would break down his door in the middle of the night and shoot him would be greatly decreased.

Ok, I will agree that the police were TOTALLY in the wrong. He is STILL dead. Had he never gotten involved with illegal drugs, chances are he would still be alive.

51 posted on 01/18/2011 2:50:57 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Signing up for SWAT is like signing up for the Hitler Youth. I don’t really care what happens to you after that. You deserve it all. My cousin is one.


52 posted on 01/18/2011 2:51:44 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: ClearCase_guy

I live in NYC. My block is still covered in snow from the first time a few weeks ago. People have to park sideways and off on an angle and back into the spots because the city never did squat with thesnow.

We have alternate side of the street parking to where we cant park on the side of the street two days a week. Nearly three weeks later, do you think the city did a damn thing with the snow despite the fact that no one was prking there? No.

Guess what though - the PIGS give out $100 tickets everyday up and down my block for improper parking.

I can’t tell you have livid the average person is at cops around here because of this ticket blitz after what the city has pulled.

Again - my view of cops and law enforcement is not what it used to be. I literally detest 99% of law enforcement at this point since they serve NO purpose whatsoever at this point than to respnd to crimes after the fact and write a report.

Protect and Serve my ass.


53 posted on 01/18/2011 2:54:36 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Fido969
When I was a kid, it was the job of the police to make the public feel safe. Somehow or other, that got turned around.

They also called you Sir or Ma'am. These days they expect to be called Sir. At least I make sure I address the officer that pulls me over as sir"

54 posted on 01/18/2011 2:55:14 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

When the war comes, wearing a uniform is going to be dangerous. Most people hate the cops.


55 posted on 01/18/2011 2:55:35 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: darkside321
The drug and crime infested streets of Ogden, Utah.


56 posted on 01/18/2011 2:55:44 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Onelifetogive

And when the govt decides to ban booze again or some other item, like they did drugs i this case, it will be the same outcome.


57 posted on 01/18/2011 2:56:17 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Most people hate the cops.

Not sure about the "most" part.......

58 posted on 01/18/2011 2:56:42 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: mewykwistmas

Yeah, but the perp had a bitchin Camaro Z28 which would become theirs in asset forfeiture.


59 posted on 01/18/2011 2:56:42 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Onelifetogive

I told you all there were idiots here who had no problem with this. *points up*


60 posted on 01/18/2011 2:56:57 PM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: darkside321
It's called state sanctioned murder. Absolutely disgusting to watch.This police officer is simply another coward hiding behind a badge just like the local DA hiding behind his office.
61 posted on 01/18/2011 2:57:42 PM PST by Apercu ("Obama is graffiti on the wall of American History")
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To: Osage Orange

Most cops have greatly earned their disgust by the public.


62 posted on 01/18/2011 2:58:19 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Sir Gawain
That situation doesn't end well for the family. Ask the Weavers or the Branch Davidians about the ultimate utility of firing upon gung ho idiot law enforcement officers that are firing at you!

But given the situation it seems perverse that with a no-ID no-knock raid (usually in a bad neighborhood) they would immediately fire upon and kill anyone brandishing a weapon (even a golf club).

What is the resident supposed to think when the door comes flying down - “better get into the prone position ASAP?” is the thinking of the slave.

A free man takes up arms when an unidentified intruder comes through the door!

And apparently, in our Republic, a free man gets killed by the jack booted thugs for so doing.

Galling!

63 posted on 01/18/2011 2:59:05 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: darkside321

mistakes were made...


64 posted on 01/18/2011 2:59:14 PM PST by steveo (PETO-VT-IN-MARI-SVB-CRVCE-AVSTRALI-SEPELIAR)
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To: Apercu

The best part is that the cops scream about people not respecting them anymore. Yeah whatever.


65 posted on 01/18/2011 2:59:29 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: darkside321; Fido969; ml/nj
"...When I was a kid, it was the job of the police to make the public feel safe. Somehow or other, that got turned around..."


This is precisely the reason for my discomfort at the roadside License / Insurance / Registration checkpoints that seem to be in vogue today.
By design, that technique assumes GUILT by the drivers randomly on that route and exclusively allows passage once credentials are examined.

Call me crazy, yet an assembly of unsmiling, confrontational, steroid-enhanced, buzzcut guys (some with dogs) isn't setting the stage for a friendly exchange.
This pumped-up approach to law enforcement is disconcerting and is not the neighborly "peace officer" of years past.
It is also how one can go from just minding their own business in their car to being dragged out through the window at gunpoint in virtually an instant.

When we were kids, all of us knew the local cops by name (e.g. "Officer Bob") and he or she would occasionally give us a stick of gum or piece of candy. I don't have any kids, yet I know it ain't happening like that these days.

66 posted on 01/18/2011 3:00:41 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: ClearCase_guy

They were trying to setup Henry Bowman.

Great Book by the way I think it should be required reading.

These cops did nothing but kill this man and for nothing more than a little bit of dope. This is disgusting. Someday the tide will turn and people will tire of fearing our government.


67 posted on 01/18/2011 3:01:17 PM PST by blarney
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To: Onelifetogive

OLTG’s Rules for a Happy (and Longer) Life: “Don’t be a drug addict!”


Sorry but as said what if he was drunk?
This guy NEVER was a threat to anyone.
I mean serious whats next you get into a police controll and if you don´t instantly fall on the ground within a second they will shoot you? And AFTER they have shot you they will say get on the ground?


68 posted on 01/18/2011 3:01:19 PM PST by darkside321
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To: darkside321
Just imagine someone breaks your door in the middle of the night.

Years ago there was a case in Indy where the homeowner of a raid gone wrong (wrong address) killed the first officer that entered his house with a shotgun.

He survived multiple gunshot wounds from the following officers, was charged with manslaughter and as many other charges as they could muster and tried.

The homeowner was aquitted by the Jury.

I think police today are 1) too militarized and 2) watch too many episodes of "Cops"!

69 posted on 01/18/2011 3:01:20 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
i don’t care if the guy had 2 poundsof coke, thistype of summary execution is nt warranted period.

Is the death penalty a possible sentence for drug possession?

The point being, it appears so ridiculous when a serial rapist murderer has the State pour millions into trying him multiple times before multiple juries and then having the bum sit on Death Row for a score of years just so on his execution date dozens of candle bearing liberals can protest his execution while the State chemically induces death so painlessly that the Supreme Court can sleep at night.

In contrast, we have thugs smash apart private property and gun someone down in the middle of the night on a petty offense.

We are one messed up nation.

70 posted on 01/18/2011 3:02:46 PM PST by The Theophilus
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To: darkside321

Cop says he is “Pleased his training, gun and ammo allowed him to make such short work...” Paraphrase, sort of but, pretty accurate if one reads the article.


71 posted on 01/18/2011 3:03:33 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Blue Jays
This is precisely the reason for my discomfort at the roadside License / Insurance / Registration checkpoints that seem to be in vogue today. By design, that technique assumes GUILT by the drivers randomly on that route and exclusively allows passage once credentials are examined.

I don't like these either. But at least there is some plausible justification based upon the notion that driving is a licensed activity. Occupying ones own home is in no way similar.

ML/NJ

72 posted on 01/18/2011 3:09:07 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: GlockThe Vote
GlockTheVote, agree with you 100% regarding the militarization and this latest approach.
See my post above regarding how things can go wrong in the blink of an eye.

73 posted on 01/18/2011 3:10:57 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: darkside321; OneWingedShark
Well at least they got the right address this time.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

74 posted on 01/18/2011 3:17:25 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure
I told you all there were idiots here who had no problem with this. *points up*

I'm not the idiot in this conversation. I posted this:

I will agree that the police were TOTALLY in the wrong. He is STILL dead.

I was suggesting a way for people to GREATLY decrease the chance that a cop (or criminal) would come bursting thru their doors in the middle of the night.

75 posted on 01/18/2011 3:27:14 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: darkside321
What happened to the moment between "Freeze" and actually watching if he does?

What LEO is taught to shoot less then 2 seconds after the command "Freeze" is given ?

Absolutely, every simple one of these JBT should be fired and the supervisor fired and every single one of them dragged into court and drained of all their earthly possessions

Justified shooting my ass.

76 posted on 01/18/2011 3:30:55 PM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: darkside321
This guy NEVER was a threat to anyone.

Sure. The COPS were WRONG!

But if you never buy drugs, you'll never end up buying from an undercover cop and getting your name on the list of people's houses that need to be raided. If you never buy drugs, you'll be MUCH less likely to have some dealer give up your name to get a lesser sentence. If you never buy drugs, no dealers will be aware of the fact that you have drugs and cash in your house. Seriously, there are MANY benefits to NEVER buying illegal drugs!

77 posted on 01/18/2011 3:34:45 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: Onelifetogive

I was suggesting a way for people to GREATLY decrease the chance that a cop (or criminal) would come bursting thru their doors in the middle of the night.


Yeah i get what you want to say.
But serious if i have a lot less than a ounce of pot inside my home (not that i have it but anyway) i don´t expect that a swat team will raid my home at 3 am.
Maybe a drug dealer will expect this (and believe me they would have been prepared and WOULD have fired on the officers!) But in this case.
I mean come on! He didn´t harm anyone (beside himself maybe) and was executed by police!
We have courts do deal with this.
And the police is NOT THERE to play the judges.
There exists something we call law.
Just for example you know it´s against the law to drive over a stop sign. It´s against the law to drink a beer when you are not 21. Should you be killed for this????


78 posted on 01/18/2011 3:42:50 PM PST by darkside321
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To: Onelifetogive

Yeah. The cops NEVER get the wrong house.

Oh, wait! Yes they do!

Google “police swat wrong house” and get 164,000 hits.

I have no use for authoritarian thugs or their apologists. NONE.

APf


79 posted on 01/18/2011 3:43:52 PM PST by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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To: ClearCase_guy
In the novel "Unintended Consequences", the main plot point comes about because the BATF decide to raid an empty house -- and find out that the house is not empty, and that they have messed with the wrong guy.

This country needs Henry Bowman

Ok, don't make me read the book, short and sweet, what happened?

I used to pretty much always side with LE, no matter what.

I guess the 20+ years in Las Vegas has changed that a bit, these guys will shoot your ass for lookin' at 'em wrong.

That video was sick.

80 posted on 01/18/2011 3:45:17 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Keep flappin' your lips while I reload..............)
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To: allmendream

A shotgun? Against body armor? A slug would probably break some major ribs and make the guy WISH he were dead.


12ga. Brenneke Special Forces Short Mag 2 3/4" 1 1/4oz.

81 posted on 01/18/2011 3:51:05 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Onelifetogive

Ok well then I apologize


82 posted on 01/18/2011 3:53:05 PM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: Fido969

>Cops should have stayed home that day. Didn’t do much “protecting the public.”
>I guess they “felt that their life was in danger.”
>Whenever you encounter a cop: MAKE SURE HE FEELS SAFE.
>When I was a kid, it was the job of the police to make the public feel safe. Somehow or other, that got turned around.

So, I should offer them some milk and cookies and perhaps a warm blanket?


83 posted on 01/18/2011 4:03:33 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

So, I should offer them some milk and cookies and perhaps a warm blanket?


They would have shot you because of the cookies.
You now cookies can be a dangerous weapon if thrown against some bulletproof body armor.
Sorry but the more often i watch this “clip” the more angry i get. Killers who hide behinde the state.
Unfortunately i´m pretty shure nothing will happen to them.


84 posted on 01/18/2011 4:16:46 PM PST by darkside321
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To: EdReform
Ah yes, the ever versatile shotgun! An answer to every problem. But with conventional rounds, a shotgun is not too effective against body armor.

My brother and I used to talk about how a guy with a shotgun and some modified shells could kill more than half of the Justice League (kryptonite shell-Superman, yellow slug- Geen Lantern, buckshot - Wonderwoman (block THAT with your bracers!)).

Ok, break out the pocket protectors I AM a geek!

85 posted on 01/18/2011 4:17:23 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: darkside321
I'm sure Sgt Burnett will get a lot of 'attaboys' at the next choir practice, along with admiring glances as he carves the second notch into his grip.

But alas, it will be all wiped out by the "oh shit" moment, when the choir notices he forgot to kill the dog.

86 posted on 01/18/2011 4:20:10 PM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: GlockThe Vote
Once again....your "most" is subjective.

FWIW-

87 posted on 01/18/2011 4:24:45 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: isthisnickcool

” I was not impressed with this SWAT team. No reason to shoot. 8+ man team and the guy was armed with a stick, err, golf club. Pu$$ies!”

But everyone hates intermediate weapons like the taser....


88 posted on 01/18/2011 4:24:52 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: darkside321

Wow. Just damn. The fact that a cop isn’t going to prison, and a squad isn’t being disbanded over this is truly amazing to me. Murder. State sanctioned murder.


89 posted on 01/18/2011 4:26:30 PM PST by SoDak (Won't you pour me a Cuban Breeze, Gretchen)
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To: allmendream

If you hit the head a shotgun is effective! “your” helmet will not protect you! But then again i have my steyr aug at home. A .223 full metal jacket will penetrate every police armor.
Not that it would help me this much (because i still would get killed if swat storms my house) but at least i would die knowing that i took one of this “nazis” with me.


90 posted on 01/18/2011 4:27:27 PM PST by darkside321
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To: ml/nj

>>This is precisely the reason for my discomfort at the roadside License / Insurance / Registration checkpoints that seem to be in vogue today. By design, that technique assumes GUILT by the drivers randomly on that route and exclusively allows passage once credentials are examined.
>
>I don’t like these either. But at least there is some plausible justification based upon the notion that driving is a licensed activity. Occupying ones own home is in no way similar.

That’s where you’re wrong.
In 2005, there was a case called Kelo v. New London in which the US Supreme Court ruled in favor of the city of New London. What had happened was New London had used eminent-domain to take Kelo’s house, which as I understand had no outstanding tax-debt, in order to turn the property over to a private developer. The justification the city gave for using eminent-domain on behalf of this private entity for fulfilling the “for public use” clause of the 5th Amendment was that a *projected* increase in tax-revenue from the private-developer’s project.

Put another way, the Supreme Court said that it is well-and-good for a government entity to take your house/property and give it to someone else because they THINK that it will generate more taxes. This means that you live in your own home only at the pleasure of the government.

Of course, I would love to see the members of the 2005 USSC brought up on charges of Conspiracy Against Rights for this incident:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000241——000-.html
The problem is that so many people believe that the Constitution is whatever the Supreme Court says it is, which is a logical absurdity because 1) the Constitution establishes the Supreme Court (and denies the ability of that court to amend or alter the Constitution) and 2) the Justices take an oath to support the Constitution; if the Constitution is whatever they say it is then that oath is to merely support/agree with whatever they say.


91 posted on 01/18/2011 4:29:06 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
I think Kelo was decidedly wrong, but it has nothing to do with Fourth Amendment rights.

ML/NJ

92 posted on 01/18/2011 4:32:25 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: OneWingedShark
I think Kelo was decidedly wrong, but it has nothing to do with Fourth Amendment rights.

ML/NJ

93 posted on 01/18/2011 4:32:25 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: allmendream

Ah yes, the ever versatile shotgun! An answer to every problem. But with conventional rounds, a shotgun is not too effective against body armor.


I agree, and my first choice would be something in .308 or better for this kind of threat. However if all you have is the 12 ga, then you do have a few options beyond conventional rounds. That's all I was trying to point out.

94 posted on 01/18/2011 4:32:53 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: EdReform
Well thanks for the correction, I should have included my proviso about conventional rounds - didn't want our intrepid FReeper awaiting the JBT’s with inefficient or insufficient ammo! ;)
95 posted on 01/18/2011 4:34:59 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: ml/nj

Sure it does; if you have no right to your house then the government can arbitrarily say that it’s not your house and then claim that the 4th doesn’t protect you because you were not in your own home.... granted to do this they would need to ‘retrospectively’ lay claim to your house, but I do not think that that would hinder them much.

{My cynical opinion.}


96 posted on 01/18/2011 4:37:36 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Onelifetogive

That is great advice, on the level of the individual, for living one’s life. But it’s a non-sequitur in regard to Constitutional principles and what we feel is appropriate behavior from government authorities. Even people who break the law should be afforded a reasonable protection of their civil rights. Especially when you consider that there are so many laws now that everyone is breaking at least one at any given time.


97 posted on 01/18/2011 4:39:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: darkside321
SWAT units are now wearing Level IV body armor, not soft Level III.

The heavier armor available is why I have several hundred rounds of 7.62x51 API. If the tungsten core doesn't get you, the 3,000 degree incendiary will. And if I live long enough, no body armor in existence stops a .338 at close range. Head shots are the best option, but I doubt you will have time to aim that well. Dark, the invaders have probably thrown their 'diversion' devices (nice euphemism for flash grenade), and you are the one caught off-guard, not them. The only thing that will save you is something that throws them off their well rehearsed invasion rhythm.

Introduce confusion and panic. That is what they are counting on you being consumed with. Return the favor, and you have a chance, however small, of winning the engagement.

98 posted on 01/18/2011 4:45:17 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

“The only thing that will save you is something that throws them off their well rehearsed invasion rhythm.”

Good advice. This guy might still be alive if he had an extra 5 seconds to figure out what was going on.

What a world we live in.


99 posted on 01/18/2011 4:52:57 PM PST by APatientMan
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Well sorry but a .223 FMJ fired from an assault rifle at close range is lethal. There is a chance that the “armor” will stop it (even the more powered 7,62) but this is far away from given, Again we are talking about military armor! and not civilian or police body armor. 2 or 3 hits from a .223 asault (at close range) rifle will kill you no matter what body armor you where.


100 posted on 01/18/2011 4:58:26 PM PST by darkside321
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