Oh goody! AN OPUS!
5.56mm
I disagree.I would say most people are very pro life. What makes you think we are against birth???
Hey, I hear ya. I’ve been here since 1998. As the years roll on, this is becoming more like the Yahoo message boards as time moves along. Very rarely do I post any longer, because of the lack of civility and common ground.
Devere, don’t give up yet ! Stick around ! There isn’t a better site than Free Republic.
I haven’t seen that much anti-birther (though I cringe at the connotations of the name, birther) on FR. In fact, as a birther, I feel right at home here, and among like-minded folk.
say ello to my wife in the alternate universe.
What are you talking about?
The afterbirthers are a small minority here, and are mostly paid plants.
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Bye devere,might you be joining Global who lied to me, the nicest person in the world.,,
NWAR
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we're together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.
Happy trails to you, 'till we meet again.
Some trails are happy ones,
Others are blue.
It's the way you ride the trail that counts,
Here's a happy one for you.
Happy trails to you, until we meet again.
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we're together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.
Happy trails to you, 'till we meet again.
Opus not accepted.
Are we allowed to do that? Not accept the opus?
I suspect that your failure to visit Alabama might have something to do with your views.
Alas, we regret the loss of anyone’s point of view
Amateur.
I just stop discussing birther issues, and I have been working on the subject for the last couple of years, I used to get inundated with private e-mails of people asking inane pointless stupid questions, like a herd of sheep asking why its so silent inside the butchering shed.
At the height of the anti-birther cold war they had some relatively intelligent chess players, and dedicated socialists are actually very good chess players.
And Free Republic was their chess board.
Well the game has changed. Its much more than a game of strategic stonewalling, smoky rooms and snipe hunts.
What we have now in an utterly wide out and in the open opinion of many surrounding obama knowing that he just does NOT belong in the Whitehouse.
They tried to make it pretty, they tried to polish it so it glowed, they worked for years putting it in the right place, but like the proverbial saying you cannot polish poop it has been busted, you can indeed polish poop.
But you cannot change its very factual reality, its still poop. All the hard work of their polishing attempts, all their hard work trying to eliminate the trail of its origins, all the work of telling everyone to ignore the smell has finally reached an epic point of explosive quality.
Like being in an elevator at the end of the day with it full of passengers taking full advantage of a burrito buffet earlier.
Birtherism stinks, it stinks trying to educate opinions that are mentally gridlocked, its a challenge trying to support goofy public advocates trying to take obama to court.
And its downright sad when individuals go to prison fighting for the truth, and doubly so when they are forgotten.
But what truly and absolutely horrifies me is the possibility that people like obama will keep on coming, that even now his replacement is being groomed, his or her past is being sanitized and their past of opposers and enemies are mysteriously dropping dead.
What should realy happen for the sake of restoring America is no less than a one million person march upon Washington DC all performing a citizen arrest of obama.
NEWSFLASH! There are "anti-Birthers" on this site.
Some feel all this focus on where he may have been born and the concomitant Birth Certificate are a misdirection sponsored by Team Obama itself. Their objective: Take the collective eye off the "Natural Born Citizen" issue. In achieving that objective, Team Obama has succeeded.
It is of no help that many of those stuck on the "born in Hawaii issue" frankly manifest a very low level of legal literacy and confusion and are just venting anger and frustration. Some are so ridiculously out of line that IMHO, they could only be planted trolls. Having Obama's Birth Certificate is great idea! How do you do that?
It is entirely possible that Obama was born in Hawaii. It is unlikely, but nonetheless possible. He has not proven it. We have not disproven it. All we can say is that powerful forces are hard at work to prevent us from proving it ... which is not the same thing. Not even a valid Hawaiian Birth certificate would necessarily prove it, because they were issued to many foreign born children.
Regardless of the PLACE of birth, it is impossible in historical context that Obama is a Natural Born Citizen as required by Article II.
The two sides come together in that a Birth Certificate would officially establish that the official father was not an American citizen. But dual citizenship has already been revealed by Obama himself, in his "autobiography," and on that COLB thing displayed on line. So it matters not a whit if he were born in Hawaii or not. Has a Birth certificate, or not. Or whether he is a Native Born Citizen or not. COTUS says "Natural Born," not NATIVE born.
Team Obama originally solved the candidate's ineligibility dilemma by simply and boldly declaring that he was qualified. Whether they suspected otherwise is a moot point. That is all that has been required. This declaration was accepted by the National Democratic Party, by the Democratic Party in every state, by the 50 Election Committees and AGs of every state, placing Obama on the ballot in 50 states. He won the popular vote in most states, and was voted into office by the Electoral College, not one member of which disputed his declaration, and the Democratic Party's Declaration, that he was constitutionally qualified. He was sworn in by the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS.
The end of the story is that a constitutionally unqualified person, perhaps by fraud as in the case of Chester Arthur, is the sitting POTUS, and now can only be removed by Impeachment in the House and Conviction in the Senate, by voluntary resignation from office, or by a declaration of incompetence by the Congress. None of which is likely.
What would a reasonable man do?
(1): Concentrate on what we can do to curtail Obama's power over the time he remains in office. There will be no birth certificate forthcoming for Obama. There will be no legal means of having a court rule him unqualified in the time remaining in his term. Barring unforeseen circumstances, He will be the sitting President until 2012. We have to deal with it, if not accept it.
(2): Pass laws in every state demanding documentary proof that Presidential candidates meet the standard of Natural Born Citizen, i.e., be the offspring of two American Citizens at the time of birth. Even if no such laws are passed, State election Boards and AGs have the power to remove ineligible candidates from the ballot in their states right now! They are under no obligation to accept anyone's Declaration of Eligigbility. They have the power to demand proof, right now. They obviously did not see fit to exercise that power in 2008. Perhaps, even if no state laws are passed, they will do it in 2012. This issue is more than about Obama. Given the changing demographic, it is likely that the offspring of illegal aliens will be a candidate, inspired by the Obama "precedent."
Never heard of you, dude. Thanks for letting me know you’re going, otherwise I’d never have missed you.