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To: adorno
Like a Libtard, all you know are these steps. S-I-N

Sidestep the issues - You too are a professional? And you don't konw this extremely basic concept? What do you do? Shipping and Invoice?

Ignore the facts - Flash is Software Emulation, any newbie to the industry knows this requires considerable memory thrash. Memory Thrash burns cycles, burning cycles also burns power. It's really that simple

Namecall - I'm arrogant, I'm a fanboi?

Do grow up - there is an excuse for not knowing, that's simply a lack of experience. But you exhibit a lack of maturity. That's not name-calling, that's a demonstatable fact; re-read your post, not very mature, in fact it reads like a fairly literate high school student wrote it. Congrats on passing the spell checker test.

There is an intelligent reason Apple went with the A4 processor. In a mobile device, you do everything you can to conserve power. You turn off parts of the chip you aren't using, you constantly put the device into S1 or S2 states, you use power efficient chips, displays and pack the biggest batteries into your left-over space that meet the size/cost ratio you have to work with.

Like it or not, Adobe Flash, Apple's own .avi format, Windows .mvw, the .mkv, .mov, .mod and others REQUIRE processing be done. That's why none of those formats are supported either. Adobe Flash is a resource hog - and it's also been tied to numerous virus attacks due to it's numerous exploits. It's not something you would want tied to your OS. Remember Apple rushed a patch out, because you could jailbreak your iphone simply by visiting a website and using an Adobe .pdf exploit to break into the OS?

You could opt to make a hardware chip that would decode any one of these, but that chip would be LIMITED to ONLY do a few of those, and only under certain conditions (resolution, frame-rate, MIP size, ect.). Apple chose to use the .mp4 and H.264 format.

There is nothing 'Fanboi' about recognizing a superior approach. If as a 'professional' you do not grasp this concept, perhaps you ought to choose another profession.

If you were a competent professional, you would know about Page Files, Virtual Memory, Memory Paging and Virtual Memory. Windows 95, 98, 2000, XP, Vista, Win7, WinCE and yes - even Win7 Mobile all use this concept to address memory spaces that are not physically present. This causes what a simpleton (who knows the industry) calls "Memory Thrash". Simply stated, for your education - real memory is 'thrashed' with numerous R/W operations to sustain the virutal memory. This is done within relatively small memory 'Page'. Every R/W operation consumes power. A 'Good' mobile OS uses as few of these as possible. There is a reason MSFT has failed with WinCE, and is failing again with Win7 Mobile. Delivering a feature-poor mobile OS, over a year late, followed by delivering the SDK 6 months later - didn't help.

These are all facts, no bragging, no arrogance - these are solid, quantifiable facts. What if MSFT does something else is 'magical thinking'. Do you have any evidence that MSFT has changed the strategy they have used for the past 20 years? Did you know that there were hordes of tablets scheduled to come out with Win7 Home running on an Atom processor? Did you know that every single one of them saw that the product had no legs - and they cancelled the programs entirely? Did you know that the HP Slate was supposed to be released over a year ago? Did you know that HP bought Palm because they realized that MSFT didn't have a clue as to what to put into a mobile OS? Guesss these folks are all arrogant too, huh?

16 posted on 02/25/2011 7:01:12 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Hey, look, dude, you’re still arguing with a very arrogant attitude, and an “I know more than you because I’m an IT professional” reference point.

No matter how you might want to put it or spin it, what you have, as far as the Window 8 smartphone market is concerned, is mostly, guesswork, and a lot of fanboi type rhetoric.

Like I said, unless you are privy to the Windows 8 specs for the Windows smartphone and the Windows tablets, then, all you have is guesswork, and your IT experience isn’t going to change that.

You can throw out all the latest buzzwords you like regarding current or expected technology, but, in the end, you don’t know any more than anyone else about what Windows 8 will have as features or what it will be designed to support. Did you know that Microsoft has already stated that they’ll support the ARM processors, and thereby the smartphones and tablets which use those chips?

And then, you try to label me by calling me a “libtard” while pretending to be offended by me calling you a fanboi? Look, when somebody acts or reacts like you do when being challenged, and you retort with your supposedly superior knowledge in the IT field, then you’re just demonstrating huge arrogance. Your credibility in regards to what’s coming in the future is not necessarily enhanced by pointing to your supposedly superior talent in the IT field. Like I said, I’m in the field myself, but I don’t go around throwing that fact around in order to try to win an argument. I’m not in the hardware field, but being in the software arena, I have to understand the capabilities of the hardware which I might have to develop for, therefore, I need to prepare for whatever is coming down the pike.

Most of what you posted regarding Windows 8 is the same type of “hoping for failure” that I read so often by the detractors of anything Microsoft. And like I said, it would be wrong to have that kind of attitude if it concerned Apple or Google or IBM or any other IT company.

The argument you made, is about what Flash is about and how CPU intensive the software is, and it’s irrelevant. With the multi-core CPUs coming into existence, it may not matter much to the consumer who is not as “IT literate” as you or me. But, either way, do you know for a fact that what Microsoft has in mind is just “Flash” support, or will there be more options to come?

BTW: “libtard”? Does that sound professional to you? And then you’re going to accuse me of sounding like just a grammatically correct “high school” graduate?

The fact is that, I may be a lot more conservative than you when it comes to politics and government and issues. Are you accustomed to making conclusions about the political leanings of a person based on his/her statements/knowledge regarding IT? That would be a pretty idiotic method for critical analysis.

I think your problem is more about not taking too kindly to someone challenging your position and your uppity stance on the issue of Windows 8.

However, I would still like to know what knowledge you are privileged to know regarding Windows 8 that hasn’t been disclosed to the rest of the world.

Also, having been in the industry for, no doubt, longer than you, I do know about “Page Files, Virtual Memory, Memory Paging and Virtual Memory”, because, coming from the mainframe world, and from the massively parallel computing platforms (such as Tandem computers) I had to know how to be very savvy and conservative about memory use. Nowadays, with RAM and drive memory being so cheap, people don’t have the same worries as the “mainframers” of the past. But, like I already said, that’s irrelevant to the discussion at hand, and you don’t need to try to continue pointing out how your arguments carry more weight because of the “superior” knowledge you have in the industry. You may not be able to recognize it as arrogance, but it is.

Now, again, how does my take on this particular issue make me a “libtard”? You, yourself, sound like the typical libtard, who, when he’s not able to subdue an opponent with his side of the argument, will resort to insults or screaming.

Now, ask me about the project which I’m working on to try to get true “fair and balanced” news and information out to the world. (BTW, “fair and balanced” doesn’t mean conservative only or republican, or liberal; it means allowing all news and information and viewpoints). It’s a client/server application which will need a huge database and a huge amount of hardware, with the potential of many millions of daily users, and the potential to draw a large amount of traffic away from Google and Yahoo and Microsoft and all the major news organizations, while generating it’s own traffic. Now, remember, I said “potential”, and that’s because, my system isn’t out there yet. (Yeah, I know, this last paragraph is kind of tangential, but, I would need all kinds of gadgets to be able to connect to my system, including Windows 8 tablets and smartphones, and those based on iOS and Android, and the major OSes, and for all of that, I don’t care who wins the battle of the OSes or the hardware).

Oh, one last thing:

In order to get a message out, one doesn’t need much more than a high-school education in communications skills. When things are kept simple, you tend to reach more people. There’s no need to over-complicate matters. Logic and common sense don’t require that someone be a communications major. ;)


17 posted on 02/25/2011 8:54:41 AM PST by adorno
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