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Does anyone want to be "well-read?"
www.rogerebert.com ^ | 04/16/11 | Roger Ebert

Posted on 04/21/2011 2:43:04 PM PDT by Borges

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To: Lakeshark

Lol!

Yep, I’m well red...with an occasional white. :P


61 posted on 04/21/2011 3:58:33 PM PDT by derllak
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To: Borges

Let’s see.

Shakespeare.

Romeo + Juliet, Midsummer’s Nights, Othello, Merchant of Venice, Hamlet, Macbeth, King Lear, Henry V, Julius Caesar. I think that’s it.

Oh, and most of his poetry. His poetry is underrated.

Dickens:

A Christmas Carol, Tale of Two cities, David Copperfield and that’s it, all in the last year or so.

Twain,

A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court, Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn, both those books. And that’s it.


62 posted on 04/21/2011 3:58:58 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Retired Greyhound

For me well read really means nothing, most of the folks who talk about it are ego stroking. At least some of the ones you list off I can respect.


63 posted on 04/21/2011 4:00:15 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: Richard Kimball

You are absolutely right about Rowling’s plot holes.

In his review of Book 7 (Deathly Hallows), Christopher Hitchens sums it up well: “The repeated tactic of deus ex machina (without a deus) has a deplorable effect on both the plot and the dialogue.”

The Potter books are probably not great literature, but they are still a blast to read.


64 posted on 04/21/2011 4:01:42 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Retired Greyhound
"Once upon a time, “well-read” meant Plato and Cicero."

That's true, and they meant that they were read in the original Greek and Latin, respectively.

Also, your point about Rowling actually being today's Cervantes is a decent one. Rowling isn't anywhere close to being the greatest living writer, a honor that I believe would likely go to either McCarthy or Roth, I can't name a single good, let alone "great" novelist under the age of 60 - although I'm sure many would argue Jonathon Franzen is great.

65 posted on 04/21/2011 4:03:28 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Borges

In SF circles PKD is hugely regarded. He’s the first SF guy in the Library of America, got an award named after him, and he’s the most filmed guy in the genre (though most of the movies made from his stuff are crap). He might not be regarded at all by the literati, but none of the rest of SF is either. Which might explain why SF fans have such low regard for the literati, they hated us first.


66 posted on 04/21/2011 4:04:20 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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All this and no Jack Vance?

... Perhaps there is a difference between being well read and reading well.

If the crap they made me read in High School was any example (”The Dollmaker”, “Siddhartha”...) They can keep it.

Now a little James Schmitz, or Heinlein, I can do with some of that.

:)


67 posted on 04/21/2011 4:04:22 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: discostu
I have a very simple rule when reading, if I think “what the $%^& is this idiot blathering on about” once a page it’s a bad book.

Let me guess: Nabakov's Pale Fire and Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury are NOT your favorite books...

68 posted on 04/21/2011 4:07:13 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher

Right on both counts.


69 posted on 04/21/2011 4:08:38 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: Kommodor

What’s your favourite Heinlein book? We might as well talk about good literature rather then the list that Ebert spewed.


70 posted on 04/21/2011 4:09:29 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Do you consider Don Quixote to be a good book?


71 posted on 04/21/2011 4:13:34 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Borges
What's black and white and red all over? ANSWER-SFW
72 posted on 04/21/2011 4:22:48 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: Borges

He laughed, and laughed, and laughed. Then his mouth fell off.


73 posted on 04/21/2011 4:24:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: Sawdring

I enjoyed Don Quixote. I read a translation, of course, since I don’t read Spanish. But it was a fun book.

I regard Huck Finn as the greatest literary work that I have ever read. It made a huge impact on me.

I read Screwtape Letters (C.S. Lewis) every year or so.

Only one book has changed my life (The Bible).


74 posted on 04/21/2011 4:24:18 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: BenKenobi

Heinlein wise, I’d have to say that my favorites for “fun” were the series starting with “Number of the Beast”, but the original (non movie bastardized) Starship Troopers and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress are great stuff.

I suspect many here would agree.


75 posted on 04/21/2011 4:33:06 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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Kipling anyone?

Patrick O’Brian for the great Aubrey-Maturin novels.


76 posted on 04/21/2011 4:42:18 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: discostu

There are no bad stories in Dubliners. It’s a model of modernist short fiction. Ulysses demands multiple readings. Great writing usually does. When books are published in numerous editions and readily available they extend to more than just the Literati. It’s when they’re out of print or only available in University Press editions when you can make the claim.


77 posted on 04/21/2011 4:43:02 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Kommodor

Did you like Glory Road?

I liked the Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and ‘To Sail beyond the Sunset.”


78 posted on 04/21/2011 4:44:23 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi

The point being that you’ve read the writers he mentions.


79 posted on 04/21/2011 4:44:39 PM PDT by Borges
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To: discostu

What didn’t you like about Pale Fire? It’s drop dead brilliant.


80 posted on 04/21/2011 4:46:23 PM PDT by Borges
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