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Glassmakers, anyone?
Vanity ^ | 4-23-11 | dangus

Posted on 04/23/2011 1:48:45 PM PDT by dangus

Anyone know if you can use a small butane or propane torch for fusing and forming glass? I'm not talking glass blowing, just bending, deforming and fusing. And slow is good. I found, for instance, an Iwatani butane torch. http://www.amazon.com/Iwatani-Torch-Burner-Professional-Cb-tc-pro/ It looked like what I figured I'd need, but in the comments, people were discussing searing stake with it, not soldering like I'd expect.

Also, anyone know why hobby glass would be so expensive? I mean, they sell cheap beer in this stuff? Why am I seeing just simple billets selling for ten dollars per pound? I'm thinking maybe I should use beer bottles. I don't drink a lot of beer, but I'm thinking maybe I should start! HHOK.

And does anyone have much experience with trying to cut it with a Dremel? I know they polish it really well, but if I try to cut into it, and I going to release a spray of powder with microfine cutting edges?

(If I've made anyone curious, I've decided to try to build fountains. Those beer bottles are even the right colors: green and brown.)


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To: dangus
You can for small things but it will take longer...You really need a torch that mixes in oxygen for higher temp. Small ones can be bought fairly cheaply. Look up prices at sites like waleapparatus.com, mountian glass arts, flametree.

The first thing you need to do is ventilate the area you are working the glass as lead and other chemicals are released when working glass...a fan behind you with windows or garage door open works to start out.

You really also need a kiln if you want what you create to survive, especially larger pieces, because the kiln with take the stresses out of the glass that will cause breakage points later.

21 posted on 04/23/2011 4:44:36 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: dangus
Btw, you can run one of those small torches on a medical oxygen concentrator and your propane tank from your outdoor grill.
22 posted on 04/23/2011 4:55:16 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: dangus
Btw, you can run one of those small torches on a medical oxygen concentrator and your propane tank from your outdoor grill.
23 posted on 04/23/2011 4:55:27 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: dangus
Also, anyone know why hobby glass would be so expensive? I mean, they sell cheap beer in this stuff? Why am I seeing just simple billets selling for ten dollars per pound? I'm thinking maybe I should use beer bottles. I don't drink a lot of beer, but I'm thinking maybe I should start! HHOK.

Yes, glass is expensive but unless you are going to do big things such as vases and bowls which would take a furnace then you do not go through that much glass.

If you use things like beer bottles then you definitely need a kiln because you need to heat the bottle before it goes into the flame because it will explode on you. Bringing it up to temp will keep that from happening.

24 posted on 04/23/2011 5:03:22 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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And does anyone have much experience with trying to cut it with a Dremel? I know they polish it really well, but if I try to cut into it, and I going to release a spray of powder with microfine cutting edges?

Masks....when you go to those glass blowing sites look up safety mask if you are going to cut glass.

25 posted on 04/23/2011 5:07:44 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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There are small table top kilns for fusing glass. I do stain glass windows and usually by sheets 2 ft. by 2 ft. You have to remember to wear heavy gloves when picking up the glass and don't ever pick it up by the sides. You pick it up by the top. If it slips out of your hand and your not wearing gloves and holding it by the sides, it can cut to the bone...I got careless one time and without gloves picked up a large sheet by the sides and it slipped. I grabbed my hands and didn't want to even look at the damage. It could have been worse, but it hurt like he!!. Glass can be bought by the square foot. Price depends on the glass. Some is very expensive, I like to use Spector/sp. glass, its the cheapest, comes in many colors and is easy to cut. Need a good diamond point glass cutter, don't try cheap cutters that you can get in the hardware store...
26 posted on 04/23/2011 6:15:44 PM PDT by goat granny
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If you make a window using the copper foil method, you use lead and soldering iron to run the bead, you inhale lead vapor, it cannot be helped...If you are doing leaded glass, you still use solder to hold it together...one you use 50/50 lead and the other you use 60/40 lead..


27 posted on 04/23/2011 6:19:10 PM PDT by goat granny
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don’t know how serious about it you are but there are table top glass grinders and the bit is a diamond dust drill. You keep water in the port and there is no dust when using it. It has a small sponge that soaks up the water and keeps the drill wet, they are expensive so you never grind glass dry. Your best bet is to find a glass shop and visit. You will get all the info you need, but if you fall in love with the glass like I did, it can become an expensive hobby....There are 100’s of colors and types of glass, all beautiful. GG


28 posted on 04/23/2011 6:25:16 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Lady Heron; dangus

More important than a mask (i have never used one) is to had safety glasses when cutting and grinding to shape. Working with glass is easy with the right equipment, but it takes a lot of practice.


29 posted on 04/23/2011 6:28:12 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Lady Heron

Want to make vacuum tubes? ;-D


30 posted on 04/24/2011 11:10:50 AM PDT by GingisK
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Would it be possible for you to explain the evacuated tube process? I am interested in making a solar oven.


31 posted on 10/05/2016 1:44:22 PM PDT by Band
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To: Kirkwood
Kinda like wood.....Different hardness...

Different burn temps...

Different.........

32 posted on 10/05/2016 1:52:08 PM PDT by Osage Orange (PNA....my butt)
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To: dangus
We have had beer bottles melt in our firepit, lots of hot coals.

On a serious note - this week our city Grand Rapids Michigan is having an art competition, this is one of the entries, a fountain made of colorful old glass ashtrays with holes drilled through the center. It is really quite pretty and I thought you would like to see it. Sorry it's not a real link but just go there I think you will like it.

http://www.artprize.org/63176

33 posted on 10/05/2016 1:52:47 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper). Time to Pray, Prepare, and Participate.)
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To: dangus

PS I do have a Dremel too you would need diamond bits to drill through glass. Not expensive.


34 posted on 10/05/2016 1:54:09 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper). Time to Pray, Prepare, and Participate.)
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To: Band
Wow! A thread wakeup after five years!

Vacuum tubes are made from 1/2" inside diameter glass tubing. The tube elements are connected to the outside world with small wires that pass through the glass. The top of the glass tube is stretched to a small diameter and then hooked to a vacuum pump that can pull a really hard vacuum. An oil diffusion pump is typically used for that.

I am not sure how that will help with a solar oven. Tell me more, maybe it can. I can also link you to sites related to vacuum tube construction.

35 posted on 10/05/2016 7:16:18 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: MomwithHope

Wow, this is an old thread. Thanks. Later that year, I found out I was going to have a son, so I never got into such hobbies for now.


36 posted on 10/06/2016 10:12:47 AM PDT by dangus
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