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Attempted TSA frame-up: a warning to travelers
My own experience | 05/02/2011 | Me

Posted on 05/02/2011 8:52:01 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw

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To: Jubal Harshaw
Same thing happened to me as they accused me of having explosives on my person. I just kept my mouth shut waiting to see what they would do? I knew I was not guilty. Anyway a supervisor came over and started to question the tsa agent and the guy tested me again, taking the sample to another machine without the supervisor. Same results. Ha-ha!

Then the supervisor asked me if I take medications and I told him yes. He told some medications will give false readings. Explosives? Yes. Anyway after, a few more minutes, I asked what they wanted me to do? They looked at each other and told me I could leave.

While waiting, another agent came over and whispered to me that if I had gone through the naked body scanner, then none of this would have happened. I took this to mean that this was all a ruse, to get me to play along in the future. I have not and I still refuse to give in to the tsa goons!

21 posted on 05/02/2011 10:13:46 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: CodeToad

T.S.A.: Totally Standing Around


22 posted on 05/02/2011 10:14:11 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now (http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

We drive everywhere, including from California to Texas.


23 posted on 05/02/2011 10:16:16 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: CodeToad
simply refuse to fly. Period. The TSA system is pure tyranny.

TAS: Too Stupid for Arbys.

Too funny!

24 posted on 05/02/2011 10:16:43 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: Jubal Harshaw
There's a warning here to everyone who flies.

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.
As for me, I took my final plane flight in February 2001.

25 posted on 05/02/2011 10:19:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: CodeToad
Hard to refuse to fly when I do a lot of international flying.

Fyi, some airports overseas require you to go through the naked body scanners, no choice to opt out. No patdowns instead.

26 posted on 05/02/2011 10:20:52 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: SaraJohnson
Soon, there will probably be a law in Texas to prosecute the perverts.

My prediction if that happens:

Big Sis and the head of the FAA announce federal lawsuits to overturn the Texas law and get an injunction. If Texas wins in the courts, the FAA threatens to stop manning facilities in Texas and forbidding commercial airlines from operating from Texas to the rest of the US.

I'll wager a case of Bass Ale on it.

27 posted on 05/02/2011 10:22:59 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Jubal Harshaw; AmericanArchConservative

wow...just...damn!

A.A.C.


28 posted on 05/02/2011 10:33:14 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: SaraJohnson

That just plain doesn't happen in TSA airport pat-downs. That wasn't what the poster described.

I am a frequent flyer who has a pacemaker, so I routinely get the full TSA pat-down. There just isn't EVER a "hands in your pants" protocol.

The agents painstaking describe every detail of the procedure and are very careful in carrying out the procedure. It's boring as hell.

29 posted on 05/02/2011 10:34:19 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

OK, out of what airport do you fly? It is routine for me (wrong, but routine) for the TSA agents to put their hands in my pants. Last week, at SFO, the TSA agent pulled my pants down to just above my knees during a “search.” Boring as hell? You must have quite the interesting social life.


30 posted on 05/02/2011 10:37:43 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Paleo Conservative
I’ve heard of seismic crews testing positive due to handling explosives a day or two before a flight.

American ingenuity to the rescue. Fieldwipes are a new type of cleaning wipe designed specifically to remove traces of heavy metals, explosive (or fertilizer) residue, and other trace elements that occur from handing or shooting ammunition or explosives. These are nasty products that you don't want on your skin, anyway. The TSA "wipes" are simple tests that should only be used, when used properly, as a basis for determining if further lab-grade analysis is needed.


31 posted on 05/02/2011 10:39:10 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: delacoert

“Nonsense. The incident described by the poster does rise in any way, shape or form to the level of “harm,” “molestation” or “frame up.”

Then don’t take his advice. Treat it as totally useless information not worth your time to post about.

;)


32 posted on 05/02/2011 10:45:29 PM PDT by TruthConquers (.Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: delacoert

Yes it does happen.

They stick their hands in your waistband and rub them around. Then they take their hand and fondle your boobs and stick their hands in your crotch from the back and the front and then again as they feel up your legs top to bottom. And they are doing this to people they have NO professional reason to supspect of being muslim terrorist airplane bombers. It is just for abusive appearances. Disgusting and incompetent.


33 posted on 05/02/2011 10:46:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: buccaneer81

We can get private - real professionals- to do airport security in Texas as all airports should be doing in light of TSA’s incompetence and abuse of the public.


34 posted on 05/02/2011 10:48:16 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Very seriously doubt it was a ruse as much as incompetence or a plain old mistake. Test strip A was most likely a true “test strip” that is used to calibrate the machine on a regular basis. These strips are deliberately designed to cause a positive result so that screeners can ensure the machine is functioning properly. After using one of these to calibrate the machine at the beginning of shift, the screener performing the calibration simply forgot to throw it away and your screener picked it up and used it on you.


35 posted on 05/02/2011 11:01:23 PM PDT by ssanders519
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To: SaraJohnson
Big Sis and the Boy-King won't allow that, mark my words. Look at Arizona; can't have states (especially Red ones) doing what's right for their people.

This is going to get interesting.

36 posted on 05/02/2011 11:03:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: ssanders519

There may have been an element of incompetence involved.
Perhaps the screener simply was incapable of doing his job in a professional manner. Perhaps ALL the cameras watching these events really did fail at the same time.

Here’s the thing, however: once the screener flat out lied, and stated that he’d not touched another test strip, once his supervisor (whom the screener had TOLD he’d handled another test strip, and who probably saw him handle the test strip) backed him up, once the TSA decided to go forward with this process based on this obviously flawed test ... that eliminates any possibility of innocent mistake. It’s not just that they performed the test wrongly, it’s that they clearly and unequivocally lied about it.


37 posted on 05/02/2011 11:09:07 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Paleo Conservative

The morning of the day my son flew home from a visit with his grandparents, his grandpa took him to the range.

Of course he got screened. Of course he was covered with GSR.

When they went to test him, my son started laughing and warned them that he’d come up “hot”. He told them what they’d done. The test came back positive and a supervisor was called as was protocol.

The agent explained to the supervisor what was going on. Horribly, everything he *touched* was contaminated with GSR so as they searched his shoes (which were worn to the range) and his bags, they were also positive.

Everyone was very nice and followed procedure. They searched the heck out of him (nicely) and he was very cooperative. The whole thing took about 20 minutes and they ended up sending him on his way.


38 posted on 05/02/2011 11:51:26 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: SGCOS; Seeing More Clearly Now; CodeToad

T.S.A.: Thousands Sexually Assaulted


39 posted on 05/03/2011 12:19:10 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: delacoert; Jubal Harshaw

Their very EXISTENCE IS A HARM. How dare you?


40 posted on 05/03/2011 12:34:33 AM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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