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Seeking FReeper Opinion: Is It Safe To 'Dry Fire' Firearms?
FR ^ | 05.10.2011 | KoRn

Posted on 05/10/2011 8:26:46 PM PDT by KoRn

Hello all,

FR has to be one of the better places I know to ask a question regarding firearms. I was just looking for a definitive answer - Is it safe to 'dry fire' a firearm without doing any harm to the gun?

All throughout my growing up, I was told that dry firing a gun was a big 'no - no', with people saying that it would damage the gun. After doing some reading here and there, I've found that this may not be the case, and it's perfectly fine to dry fire a gun without worry. As anyone would expect, I found nothing but contradictory information searching Google, with some folks saying dry firing is ok, and others not.

I recently purchased a Ruger LCR .357 Mag, and in the owner's manual, it read that it was ok to dry fire the pistol.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks!!!


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KEYWORDS: banglist; dryfiring; firearms; guns
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To: Optimist

My dad always told me something tantamount to the end of the world would occur if I did so I never have.

Pulled the trigger on an empty clip, once.

The Beretta 9mm and the world are both still here.

[Yes, I have nothing useful to add]

:)


41 posted on 05/10/2011 9:20:13 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: KoRn

What did it say about dry firing in the manual that came with your gun? What? You didn’t read the manual? You can download it from the gunmaker’s website.


42 posted on 05/10/2011 9:36:41 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: lacrew

JUST USE A EMTY SHELL, PARTICULARLY FOR RIM FIRE


43 posted on 05/10/2011 9:42:33 PM PDT by munin (Enki did it,)
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To: RingerSIX

Was that gun stainless when you bought it or was it blued?

The reason I ask is I have something similar that was blued and had a minor touch of rust on it, so I stripped it, and now it looks stainless, but I need to keep it wrapped in a well-oiled cloth.

I tried to re-blue it but was never happy with the results.


44 posted on 05/10/2011 9:50:55 PM PDT by djf (One mouth. Two ears. Is that some kind of hint???)
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To: 'smith

With you being an experienced Gunsmith and asking for specific models, I’ll go ahead an lay out a list of my limited arsenal:

Saiga 12 - 12 Gauge Semiauto (factory, as of right now /cry )

PTR91 - 7.62x51 (.308 Win - Good for long distance calls, but enough of this one, and my shoulder hates me)

DPMS AR15 - 5.56 (most fun gun to shoot)

HK USP45 Tactical - 45ACP (kicks ass!)

Beretta 92FS - 9mm (best all around)

Bersa Semiauto - .380 (not sure with the specifics on this one, as it’s my wife’s

Springfield Armory XD40 - .40ACP (what I reach for in home defense)

Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge (never fails)

Ruger LCR - .357 Mag (can carry it literally anywhere)

There’s still a couple of rifles I’d like to add on to what I have. My objective is to have a well rounded collection where I’d have a ‘tool’ for any scenario that may arise if the S ever HTF. I’d still like to get a good bolt gun, in a .300 Win Mag or 30-06. I’d also like to get a good semi auto .22 rifle. Of course, if I ever get the disposable income to drop several grand on a rifle, I’d be delighted to get a hold of a Barrett .50 cal before .gov bans them.

Thanks for your help!


45 posted on 05/10/2011 9:57:29 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

I wouldn’t hesitate to dry fire the 91, The AR, HK, Beretta, XD or Ruger. The Saiga, Mossberg and especially the Bersa, may break firing pins when dry firing or burrs may develop which could cause the firing pin to jam in the forward position, potentially leading to an accidental discharge when the bolt slams forward.
As others have suggested above, snap caps are a way to be sure no damage occurs.


46 posted on 05/10/2011 10:23:34 PM PDT by 'smith
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To: 'smith

Awesome! Thanks for the great info!

I’ll look into getting some snap caps for those firearms you mentioned. I think dry firing is good practice for testing trigger pull. Just didn’t want to hurt anything. Would a spent casing be sufficient in the place of the snap caps?


47 posted on 05/10/2011 10:37:35 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

Use Snap Caps. Can be used as a tool to teach you good skills without live fire and doesn’t allow the firing pin to be thrown beyond it intended length.

But, other than that, you can dry fire. I just prefer not to.


48 posted on 05/10/2011 10:53:08 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: djf

Oh man! Drop that thing off to a smith and let him fix it.


49 posted on 05/10/2011 11:00:46 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: KoRn

I suppose it must depend on the gun. I broke the firing ping of a shotgun by dry-firing it. I’d advise against it unless you have specific knowledge to the contrary for the gun in question.


50 posted on 05/10/2011 11:11:26 PM PDT by RonF
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To: wendy1946
but Hitler had a dozen ways to win WW-II and two or three ways to lose it and found the two or three ways.

Thank God Hitler was too impulsive to secure his fuel supply before invading Russia.

51 posted on 05/11/2011 12:59:46 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Shemp was the Fourth Stooge of the Apocalypse.)
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To: KoRn

DUH! It all depends on the gun! Check with mfg.!

Some you NEVER dry-fire; some there is no problem!

DUH!


52 posted on 05/11/2011 1:55:52 AM PDT by Arlis (- Virginia loghome/woods-dweller/Jesus lovin'/Bible-totin'/"gun-clinger")
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To: KoRn

Short answer: check the manual.

Kimber’s are supposed to be dry fired. Lowering the hammer slowly can actually hurt the gun.


53 posted on 05/11/2011 4:16:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Arlis
"DUH!"

Please write in English. Making verbal noises using text doesn't do much in getting your point across.

54 posted on 05/11/2011 5:01:19 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Inyo-Mono

Yes if the owners manual says its OK then its OK but I would definitely use snap caps anyway.


55 posted on 05/11/2011 6:08:58 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Inyo-Mono; KoRn

Yes, the first thing you should buy after getting a new gun would be a set of snap caps if you don’t already have them in that caliber.

Use them to practice loading and unloading the weapon until you are proficient in the process.

You can also use them for any training that doesn’t involve firing the weapon and you can slip one or two into a magazine with the regular ammo to practice clearing misfires.


56 posted on 05/11/2011 6:09:23 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: lacrew
Save some spent 22’s and insert them when you “dry fire”. Make sure the previous hit is not under the pin. If it is a problem nip it off with some sharp side cutters.
57 posted on 05/11/2011 6:13:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: KoRn

It depends on the firearm. Many are safe for that but some are NOT. Consult the manufacturer or ask around about a specific make/model.


58 posted on 05/11/2011 6:26:43 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: KoRn
snap caps cant hurt, but the owners manual said its ok, i would take their word for it...

i believe centerfire is usually not a worry, NOT rimfires tho...

59 posted on 05/11/2011 6:26:43 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: KoRn
Depends on the firearm. Too be on the safe side, here's another vote for snap caps.

  1. Gives the hammer/firing pin something to hit.
  2. Ensures there is something other than a live bullet in the cylinder/chamber.
  3. Can be safely used with mags/speedloaders/moon clips for reloading drill practice

I'm sure there are more. Basically, there are a lot of reasons to use snap caps and no really good ones not to. Sure, you can dry fire most firearms without doing damage to them. It just makes more sense to me to protect my investments.

60 posted on 05/11/2011 6:56:48 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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