If I had something from MI5 I wouldn’t be posting it.
Look, bigamy was a criminal offence in the UK and Kenya. Barack Obama, Sr, wasn’t charged with bigamy by either the British or the Kenyans. He wasn’t charged with bigamy by the INS either. It’s quite clear that both the UK and the USA thought he was “a slippery customer”. In other words they thought he was a bigamist. But they didn’t charge him with it. The only possible reason for that was that they couldn’t prove it in court.
It’s happened before and it will happen again.
That isn’t nonsense.
IMHO, the marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham was bogus and that is also a criminal offence. But again they couldn’t prove it, or they didn’t want to try, or they didn’t care. I don’t know which it was.
That isn’t nonsense either.
If you say someone committed bigamy you have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt. No one has. It’s a moral certainty but not a legal one.
As for the British being interested in him, they’d be interested in the son of an Al Quaida, or Taliban member, that’s a racing certainty. They’d jailed his father on terrorism charges in 1949, so they’d have seen him in the same light. Doesn’t matter whether his father was guilty or not, or whether I think it was right to jail Kenyan nationalists or not.
No nonsense in that view.
Look, bigamy was a criminal offence in the UK and Kenya. Barack Obama, Sr, wasn’t charged with bigamy by either the British or the Kenyans. He wasn’t charged with bigamy by the INS either. It’s quite clear that both the UK and the USA thought he was “a slippery customer”. In other words they thought he was a bigamist. But they didn’t charge him with it. The only possible reason for that was that they couldn’t prove it in court.
I think it's a mistake to use the term 'bigamy' in relation to a muslim family. And they were and still are muslims. Onyango Obama had a number of wives concurrently. There was Akumu, the mother of Barak Hussein Obama, who had three children...and when she 'ran away to Tanzania' or died, according to which report you read, Sarah, known as 'granny Sarah' took over her children, to raise with her own by Onyango.
It’s happened before and it will happen again.
That's islam. The government of Kenya could hardly prevent a muslim family from following their 'religion' - any muslim 'marriages' between Onyango and his various wives would hardly have been conducted as civil ceremonies or in a church! In other words, no records.
That isn’t nonsense.
Agreed, simply islamic.
IMHO, the marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham was bogus and that is also a criminal offence. But again they couldn’t prove it, or they didn’t want to try, or they didn’t care. I don’t know which it was.
And just as Onyango the father, had multiply wives, polygamy as per islam, so might Barak Hussein Obama have had an islamic marriage to Kezia. He had a 'wife' in Kenya, so what? In his mind, he was allowed FOUR. If there was a marriage to anyone in Hawaii, it would be his FIRST, according to OUR laws.
That isn’t nonsense either.
Correct. Many muslim men come to Western countries and have multiple 'wives' - they live in the same house, raise lots of children, yet are not guilty of bigamy.
If you say someone committed bigamy you have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt. No one has. It’s a moral certainty but not a legal one.
Muslims don't commit bigamy in that sense. It's polygamy by consent...for want of a better description
As for the British being interested in him, they’d be interested in the son of an Al Quaida, or Taliban member, that’s a racing certainty. They’d jailed his father on terrorism charges in 1949, so they’d have seen him in the same light. Doesn’t matter whether his father was guilty or not, or whether I think it was right to jail Kenyan nationalists or not.
Onyango Obama was jailed for two years from 1949 iirc. His eldest son, who attended the same school as Barak, was two years older. He was the son of Onyango and Sarah. He attended the school at Maseno under the name of Joseph. His arabic name was YUSUF. He left the school two years before Barak, who left in 1953. Yusuf left the school 'for unexplained reasons' according to the teacher. So Yusuf left in 1951, the same year as his father was released from jail. Of course the authorities would have been keeping an eye on them! There was a State of Emergency in force in Kenya from 1952 until 1959.
No nonsense in that view.
It's never nonsense to ask questions, IMO.
The entire Kenya family background story is open to question IMO. When 'granny' Sarah tells the children of Kezia, NONE OF YOU ARE HIS CHILDREN - why was that mentioned in 'Dreams' unless that matter was common knowledge in the village, and in surrounding villages also? Was it thought better to deal with this issue in 'Dreams' rather than allow it to surface later? They tried to make it seem as if Sarah was jealous that HER CHILDREN did not inherit.
But it was HER son YUSUF who was the eldest, and by custom, it was her son who had already inherited the land of Onyango Obama.
All that MARK stood to inherit, was the personal possessions of Barak Hussein Obama.
There remains a doubt in my mind, as a result...if Kezia was really a 'wife' of Barak Hussein Obama, for she might just as well have been married to YUSUF. And the subsequent children we are led to believe were fathered by Barak on his return to Kenya, were the children of Kezia and Yusuf.
I see nothing wrong with asking questions.