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Japan to fine or jail computer virus creators
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| June 17, 2011
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Posted on 06/17/2011 4:25:24 PM PDT by decimon
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As much as I hate malware, I distrust government more. Here in the US they'll be kicking in doors over suspected cyber crimes.
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posted on
06/17/2011 4:25:28 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: ShadowAce
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posted on
06/17/2011 4:36:09 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: decimon
Under Japan's new law, people who create or distribute a computer virus with no justifiable reasonWhat would they consider a justifiable reason to be?
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posted on
06/17/2011 4:43:38 PM PDT
by
RikaStrom
(Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
To: decimon
Just publish their names and addresses.
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posted on
06/17/2011 4:54:48 PM PDT
by
Cheetahcat
( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
To: RikaStrom
Under Japan's new law, people who create or distribute a computer virus with no justifiable reason What would they consider a justifiable reason to be?
You might right now have a virus unknowingly and be spreading it inadvertently. Maybe that's what they mean.
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posted on
06/17/2011 5:00:01 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: decimon
People who create and release computer viruses should be publicly flogged to death naked with lead-tipped length of barbed wire while being hosed down with hot vinegar.
But then again, I'm a moderate
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posted on
06/17/2011 5:50:38 PM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
(Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
To: muir_redwoods
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posted on
06/17/2011 6:40:48 PM PDT
by
Amberdawn
To: decimon
IF they’re actually convicted and found guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt - then this punishment is not NEARLY enough.
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posted on
06/17/2011 9:37:33 PM PDT
by
MCH
To: decimon
Those who deliberately store a computer virus face up to two years in prison or fines up to 300,000 yen. I hope this is an error in translation. Studying a virus can provide lots of learning opportunities. I even have a friend who collects some of the more interesting ones as a novelty.
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posted on
06/17/2011 9:46:00 PM PDT
by
FourPeas
("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
To: RikaStrom
An instructor in a computer security class would have a justifiable reason to distribute malware for the students to study.
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posted on
06/17/2011 9:47:11 PM PDT
by
FourPeas
("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
To: decimon
As much as I hate malware, I distrust government more. I'm with you.
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posted on
06/17/2011 9:48:29 PM PDT
by
FourPeas
("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
To: decimon
“As much as I hate malware, I distrust government more.”
Yep, same crap with these jackbooted child porn and drug investigations. The government likes to exploit people's emotions to lower the burden of proof and take us away from “innocent until proved guilty”.
NYPD recently did a city-wide child porn possession bust. They posted each suspect’s name, occupation and address. It made front page news. I find it disgusting that they can essentially ruin people's lives with no trial. The media will NEVER write a follow-up article if any of them are found not guilty.
With such a low burden of proof, it's too easy to plant evidence, hijack someones machine or hijack their wireless router. If you have typical security, anyone(including someone in the government) who doesn't like you can make your IP logs look like a violent pervert or hacker.
The same applies to drug possession with no other evidence. A planted silver-dollar sized package of 90% baking powder can give you a mandatory sentence of several years and ruin your life. No other evidence needed. It's SO easy for law enforcement to do and I have first-hand experience of seeing this happen.
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posted on
06/18/2011 9:06:16 AM PDT
by
varyouga
To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...
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posted on
06/20/2011 5:12:50 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...
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posted on
06/20/2011 5:13:35 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: RikaStrom
What would they consider a justifiable reason to be?Disabling an Iranian reactor.
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posted on
06/20/2011 6:22:15 AM PDT
by
w1andsodidwe
(Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
To: ShadowAce
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posted on
06/20/2011 8:02:24 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
To: decimon
Under the law, police can seize email communication logs of suspects from Internet service providers, among other information. I'd be surprised if they couldn't do that in this country now with a warrant.
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posted on
06/20/2011 8:06:34 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
(We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
To: decimon
Dangerous. Consider the defense “Computer security is my hobby/profession, and I wrote this virus as part of my research.” That needs to be a valid reason or you’re going to put a lot of innocent people in jail. OTOH, anybody could claim this reason, making the law useless.
Remember, the Morris Worm was innocently designed to gauge the size of the then-small Internet, not to bring the Internet to a crawl as it did. Under a law like this, Morris could have been prosecuted just for having created it in the lab.
To: ShadowAce
Fines are not good enough. Jail with a minimum 15 year sentence is appropriate for the first offense.
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posted on
06/20/2011 10:24:13 PM PDT
by
BJungNan
(Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
To: muir_redwoods
The punishment you propose is harsh and exactly what is needed. I understand you are moderate on how far you would go to punish them but we must show at least a little compassion.
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posted on
06/20/2011 10:27:15 PM PDT
by
BJungNan
(Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
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