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1 posted on 08/04/2011 2:02:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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What fools men can be.

I am constantly amazed that when I look at my watch that all those minerals randomly gathered together to make it, all by random chance and all without any kind of design.

Wonders never cease.

41 posted on 08/04/2011 2:38:13 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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What fools men can be.

I am constantly amazed that when I look at my watch that all those minerals randomly gathered together to make it, all by random chance and all without any kind of design.

Wonders never cease.

42 posted on 08/04/2011 2:38:18 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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"Spontaneous creation [of something] is the reason there is something rather than nothing."

This "something" obviously includes rhetorical tautology.

44 posted on 08/04/2011 2:42:35 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Then it follows that everything pops into existence.


47 posted on 08/04/2011 2:47:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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..the Universe can and will create itself from nothing.

Simple - you just divide by zero.

48 posted on 08/04/2011 2:48:29 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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So, the universe sprang from nothing into everything for no reason, nothing to prompt it. There had to be some stimulus for the beginning of the universe. It wasn’t just nothing then something. Some catalyst or event had to take place for the change to have happened.


51 posted on 08/04/2011 2:52:15 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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During the episode, Hawking talks about experiments in which sub-atomic particles have been observed to appear from nowhere. He feels this is proof that the universe is self-creating, as the Big Bang started out as a particle smaller than an atom.

These particles appear as part of the vacuum. The vacuum is very real (it's a mistake to assume it's nothingness), and has properties like a particle or anything else that's real. Hawking now has to explain how the vacuum came into being.

53 posted on 08/04/2011 2:55:11 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Forget about the matter. Space itself is a vast ocean of nothingness. It’s quantifiably big, given a large enough yardstick. Before the matter, where did the vast amount of nothing originate? What was in the location of the nothingness of space before its formation? How did it form?


55 posted on 08/04/2011 3:19:31 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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Stephen Hawking is squaring off with God, saying that God did not have a hand in creating the universe and that the "laws of science" can explain how the universe created itself from nothing.

Proof that even the smartest people can be very stupid.

58 posted on 08/04/2011 3:22:43 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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Frank Tipler shows in The Physics of Christianity that the only logical conclusion to all of the experimental physics theories is that God is the Trinity at the beginning and end of the universe, and is connected by Jesus.

And he says that Hawking’s own past work proves it.


60 posted on 08/04/2011 3:26:58 PM PDT by GEC (We're not drilling in ANWR because....)
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In the beginning there was nothing. And then all at once, for no reason, the nothing became everything. And the everything instantly exploded in a great big bang. And as it was exploding, the everything began to organize itself. In the midst of the explosion, the everything organized itself into various elements. And the spray of elements organized themselves into great structures: stars, comets, planets; collections of stars, comets and planets which we call systems; collections of systems into massive structures which we call galaxies; and a giant honeycomb matrix of galaxies which form the universe.

All this began from nothing. And it came into being suddenly for no reason. And if you think that there must be a reason, you are not a scientist.


62 posted on 08/04/2011 3:32:57 PM PDT by Qout
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Too late, Donovan has already explained it:
First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.

63 posted on 08/04/2011 3:34:30 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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GOD: “Hey, Hawking! Use your OWN dirt!!!


67 posted on 08/04/2011 3:56:25 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
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BFL.


73 posted on 08/04/2011 4:32:27 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
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“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing.”

Bold statement considering we don’t even have a complete understanding of the law of gravity. But understandable coming from someone who believes in spontaneous laws.


75 posted on 08/04/2011 4:45:51 PM PDT by dubyagee (Thrilled to be here...)
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IF-YOU-ARE-LOOKING-FOR-TROUBLE-YOU-FOUND-IT.....
76 posted on 08/04/2011 5:05:53 PM PDT by clbiel (Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.)
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Hawking says it is likely the universe “popped into existence without violating the known laws of Nature.”

Ah, but it's those "unknown laws" that are the rub. There was once a time when the "laws" said the world was flat. Any number of "known" facts have been disproved over the centuries.

79 posted on 08/04/2011 6:40:43 PM PDT by DejaJude
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Remember the old cartoon of the mathematicians at the blackboard...

“And then a miracle occurs...”


82 posted on 08/04/2011 9:00:56 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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>> Hawking: “Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist,”

Creationist!!!


83 posted on 08/04/2011 9:02:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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It amazes me how to so many scientists philosophy is just a barren landscape.


87 posted on 08/04/2011 10:09:30 PM PDT by CarryaBigStick (My office is an Airtractor 402)
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