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Theoretical physicist professor Stephen Hawking is pictured during his lecture on the creation of the Universe at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) in Meyrin near Geneva
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If he wants to talk about physics, I’m interested but outside his field he’s no different than anyone else.
3 posted on
08/04/2011 2:04:58 PM PDT by
cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
To: SeekAndFind
I believe the discovery of these laws is mankinds greatest achievement, he said.
The laws were there before we “discovered” them.
5 posted on
08/04/2011 2:05:21 PM PDT by
Huskrrrr
To: SeekAndFind
the "laws of science" can explain how the universe created itself from nothing.
BS
7 posted on
08/04/2011 2:06:48 PM PDT by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
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I’m sure he believes in the spontaneous generation of life, too.
Right?
8 posted on
08/04/2011 2:07:10 PM PDT by
Little Ray
(Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
To: SeekAndFind
Lawrence Krauss gave a good lecture on this. You should be able to find it if you google Krauss universe from nothing.
Goes something like, in a flat universe the total amount of energy is zero when add up energy and negative energy. Quantum fluctuations within the subatomic particles are what create something from nothing.
9 posted on
08/04/2011 2:07:59 PM PDT by
GunRunner
(10 Years of FReeping...)
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In the 1970s a British astronomer, Sir Frederick Hoyle, calculated the probability of spontaneous generation of a single celled organism. He determined that the probability of generating the proteins necessary to form a single celled organism was one chance in 1040,000. To put this in perspective, if an event has the probability of one chance in 1050 it is considered a mathematical impossibility.
10 posted on
08/04/2011 2:08:08 PM PDT by
DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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Questions for Dr. Hawking: Who created these Laws of Nature of which you speak?
How does a thing create itself? Does that not mean that it existed before it created itself, thus preexisting its own creation? Is your head spinning at that idea? I know mine is.
To: SeekAndFind
Because there is a law such as gravity...”
So where did the laws such as gravity come from?
12 posted on
08/04/2011 2:08:47 PM PDT by
ngat
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I'll have to quote Colonel Potter on this one:...”Horse Hockey!”
13 posted on
08/04/2011 2:09:21 PM PDT by
4yearlurker
(I've been dipping into my jar full of Hope & Change just to buy gas!!)
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Don’t question a poor cripple. He has a right to park in blue zones!
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"Nothing comes from nothing and nothing ever will!"
18 posted on
08/04/2011 2:12:51 PM PDT by
aMorePerfectUnion
(This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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lectures, beliefs, and tv aside, I understand that hawking has the personality of a first class jerk.
that has nothing to do or not do with science, it is all him.
22 posted on
08/04/2011 2:15:50 PM PDT by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Stephen is wrestling with God.
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or was it determined by a law of science. What is the origin of these particular laws of science. Why are there laws of science rather than nothing? Why do these laws of science have the nature that they have rather than some other nature?
27 posted on
08/04/2011 2:24:17 PM PDT by
mjp
((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God”.
34 posted on
08/04/2011 2:33:23 PM PDT by
beethovenfan
(If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
To: SeekAndFind
here’s what I don’t get with these scientist atheists...
Suppose they are right, that the other 90%+ of humans are idiots and there is nothing else.
In any case, the remote chance of an after-life is their only chance to have the answers of the universe, or have the possibilities of seeing what’s on other planets or to see back in time what the dinosaur age was really like or in Mr. Hawking’s case, to walk again.
They spend millions of dollars on the tiny remote chance that they discover aliens on another planet, but go completely against something that anyone can know absolutely yes or no for sure.
35 posted on
08/04/2011 2:33:22 PM PDT by
MNDude
(so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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Hawking says it is likely the universe popped into existence without violating the known laws of Nature.
Wow. For many people, belief in God requires too much of a leap of faith. But believing that the universe just “popped into existence” requires a much, much, much longer leap.
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The question is: is the way the universe began chosen by God for reasons we cant understand, or was it determined by a law of science. I believe the second, Hawking writes in The Grand Design.
That's a valid question, but it falls outside the purview of science. Hawking is free to pursue the answer, but it falls outside his area of expertise.
His conclusion that the universe created itself is the only one which science can reach. Since God created all things from nothing, science, in tracing backward to the universe's origin, must eventually reach a point at which nothing existed (nothing which science can detect, that is).
There are therefore only two possible conclusions: Either (A) someone or something created the universe, or (B) the universe created itself.
If Hawking is so philosophically prejudiced against the existed of a Creator, he is forced to adhere to the auto-creation conclusion in spite of its illogic, implausibility, and utter silliness.
He has led us to the answer, and then turned his back on it. We can thank him for guiding us here, without following him into foolishness.
39 posted on
08/04/2011 2:37:30 PM PDT by
LearsFool
("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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