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To: A_perfect_lady
Now if they could manage not to beget children in a time where there was NO birth control and NO safe abortions... why can’t women do it now??

They didn't manage not to beget children. A number of those single women tossed their newborn into the river or gave them away because a single woman with a child couldn't get work.

And there were both birth control and abortions. They were not advertised but every girl knew who to go to if she "got into trouble". Paying for it was another story.

And there were a lot of illegitimate children then as well. 75% of the births in St Giles were out of wedlock.

But your point of you get more of what you subsidize is taken.

37 posted on 09/10/2011 3:29:31 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Can we ask questions which God finds unanswerable? Easily. All nonsense questions are unanswerable.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Well, that WAS why I made a point of saying ladies/gentlewomen. The lower classes, yes, as you say. Some were foolish, some were victimized... But those who considered themselves gentlefolk did manage, mostly, to mince into old spinsterhood and old bachelorhood with their honor intact.

I can see that you got my over-all point: you get from people what you expect from them, for the most part. And a society that fully expects people to screw around like crazy and not even bother with birth control, or avail themselves of the "choice" that they so diefy, will have an ever-increasing supply of feral children who need feeding until they are big enough to rob you on their own.

39 posted on 09/10/2011 3:38:43 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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