NIH scientists find earliest known evidence of 1918 influenza pandemic (and more)

NIH/National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases ^ | September 19, 2011 | Unknown

[decimon]

If I have it right then the virus 'opens the door' that the bacteria comes in through. Don't know if it's ever the other way around.

[decimon]

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[Tijeras_Slim]

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[SatinDoll]

“...the 2009 pandemic influenza virus.”

What pandemic? I don’t remember any pandemic in 2009; does anyone else?

[Redleg Duke]

The MSM was in high panic about the forthcoming Pandemic...therefore, it must have occurred.

We were just to racist and homophobic to succumb to it!

[SatinDoll]

LOL!

[Empireoftheatom48]

My mom had the 1918 flu and survived, she just turned 97 last week!

[decimon]

What pandemic?

Meaning widespread. Not the same as epidemic.

[SatinDoll]

I know what pnademic means: 2009 was no pandemic.

Now, the 1917 - 1920 Indluenza Pandemic went everywhere, even up into Alaska above the Artic Circle.

[The Sons of Liberty]

Well in late 2008, November I believe, 59 million people lost their minds and voted for a marxist kenyan. Could that be the "pandemic" they are referring to? BTW should this recur in 2012, it will likely result in national suicide.

FUBO GTFO! 488 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013

[rightly_dividing]

My dad survived the 1918 flu, and would be 97, also, if he was still here. He did make it to 87, though.

[KingLudd]

What pandemic? It was the one the flu-shot companies ginned up so we had to buy a gozillion doses.

[Billthedrill]

The clinical disease and tissue damage seen in the pre-pandemic cases were indistinguishable from those evident in cases that occurred during the height of the pandemic. This suggests, says Dr. Taubenberger, that over the course of the pandemic, the virus did not undergo a dramatic change that could explain the unusually high mortality it ultimately caused.

Or that it already had. In any case, there are two hypotheses of which I'm aware at the moment: first, that the influenza virus compromised the immune system sufficiently to allow for widespread death by secondary (bacterial) infection, and second, that the virus caused a catastrophic immune cascade that ended up killing the patient by itself. I think we'd need more tissue samples than we have to demonstrate which it was, and it could have been both.

[Bigg Red]

My late mother, who died at almost 95, had also contracted the flu during the pandemic. She was born in 1912 and was to go to start first grade that fall, but all of the schools were closed because of the outbreak.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

You are so funny!!!!

You made my evening.

Thank you.

[TheThirdRuffian]

I sure as heck remeber going to the hospital with a 107 fever, coughing up nasty green crap out of my lungs as my pig flu turned into pneumoia.

Sickest I’ve ever been in my life, and I’ve shot, shelled, crashed, burned, poisoned, and had my apendix out -— twice (it grew back).

[ViLaLuz]

“What pandemic? I don’t remember any pandemic in 2009; does anyone else?”

It was the manufactured swine flu disaster the government/drug companies created so we would buy millions of Tamiflu doses—the ones that went bad when they couldn’t force everyone to get it.

[Free Vulcan]

Great-grandma’s brother was a soldier who survived WWI only to be cut down by the Spanish flu on the way home.

[decimon]

Great-grandma’s brother was a soldier who survived WWI only to be cut down by the Spanish flu on the way home.

I think we lost more to disease than to fighting. I think that's been common in the history of warfare. Napoleon might have won but for losing armies to disease.

[SatinDoll]

I had the Hong Kong flu and know what you mean - that was the only time in my life I wished I were dead. I was lucky it didn’t develope into pneumonia, like yours did. You have my sympathy.