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To: wintertime

“But I have **never** met a homeschooler with ADD.”

Yes, this is a powerful piece of evidence: Thanks.

But even you, Wintertime, are not addressing the theory that the teacher wrote me about. In effect, the ed people make the kids illiterate and anxious SO THAT the medical people can give them drugs and doubly dumb them down.

It’s a terrible thing to contemplate. But the crazy eagerness of the psychiatrists to give drugs to kids is hard to explain. Bruce Shortt in “The Harsh Truth About Public Schools” talks about this. Are the shrinks owned by the drug companies? Are they all devoted ideologues hoping to destroy the country? That’s what the special ed teacher is saying. Just so everyone is clear on this, here’s more of what the teacher said:

“They want to eliminate individual thinking at all costs. Our entire population is being attacked. It is no exaggeration to state that the NWO is at war with humanity, and in particular with the US because we are the only country with a history of a sense of having ‘rights.’”

I don’t like thinking about this level of conspiracy; but as I said, I’m comfortable now saying that the Education Establishment used a reading method they had to know did not work.


43 posted on 09/28/2011 5:26:02 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Bruce, The issue is almost certainly the relative inability to discipline children in traditional ways and the need for classroom order. In other words, children are being drugged to make them sit quietly, and in our intensely feminized government schools, the female faculty want the boys, in particular, to act like perfectly behaved girls.

I’m sure you know that boys are overwhelmingly the victims of psychotropic drug child abuse by our highly trained education professionals. Minority children are also disproportionately medicated. Go look at the DSM IV diagnostic criteria for ADD. They are absurdly subjective. The reading I recommended covers a great deal of material you need to become familiar with.


47 posted on 09/28/2011 5:40:39 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
the ed people make the kids illiterate and anxious SO THAT the medical people can give them drugs and doubly dumb them down.

That's incredibly cynical and dark. Is that a theory or an hypothesis seeking proof (evidence)? I don't believe a conspiracy like that could survive.

I don't think I could go that far. I could see where teachers would want more docile kids, and therefor are more prone to "see" "Problems" where there are merely issues that need to be overcome. They in turn recommend psychiatry, telling parents how great other kids do on the drugs and so on. Psychiatrists are then put under pressure from parents who want smart, attentive kids and besides, the diagnostic factors for some of these diseases seem pretty broad from what I know of them - but I am no expert. Tell me, before these drugs, how many "boys would be boys"? Heck perhaps it is the urbanization of kids that make them ADHD, for lack of external (outdoor) stimuli? Just guessing here, but can kids learn to be patient in a culture full of cars & highways, fast food , rapid edits on films and videos, video games etc as compared to, say, waiting for that fish to nibble on the bait, reading a book, watching the stars and clouds, climbing trees, hiking, biking... but I suppose that is slightly off point, or upstream if you will.

Perhaps the example on this thread is a good jumping off point. I was asked what I first thought of when I heard the word 'bird', and I thought of a slang use that also had a secondary ironic attachment to it - a flapper. Every mind works differently, but I accept there is no way any teacher can figure out each mind they are entrusted. It is up to the kids and parents to find out how their minds work, and to develop approaches to learning that suit those minds.

Which is just yet another reason why we cannot, should not have these massive public school systems. Kids need to have their individual talents nurtured, and it is not possible if everything is rigid, structured or taught from rote. But again I digress... perhaps I am ADHD too :-)

54 posted on 09/28/2011 6:01:13 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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