Skip to comments.Who Won Tonights Debate?
Posted on 10/18/2011 7:02:34 PM PDT by Randy Larsen
Who do you believe won tonights debate?
Longbow is correct; it was a very pro-Romney crowd. CNN clearly had it stacked. I think that Newt won the debate. He was right on in trying to point out Anderson Cooper’s objective of provoking bickering.
My thoughts exactly. Can anyone spell "setup"?
Newt was the most intelligent in the room, Paul the most honest. I loved Bachman’s answer on the 14th amendment, but she bombed on the housewife thing, and really bombed on Iran and defense. Herman waffled, Santorum is reminding me of Eddie Haskell. Mitt and Perry..forget it!
Audience was stacked with LDS, so Mitt finally got some applause, although he scored no points against anyone but Perry. Perry was unwatchable as usual. He started great points, and then repeatedly lost his train of thought. Great response to Yucca Q. talking about France, and then just STOPPED midway and changed the subject. Is he drunk? I don’t get it. Romney’s weaknesses are EASY...but Perry can’t debate his way out of a paper bag. Santorum reamed both Perry and Romney. Bachmann gets kudos for being the only one not to duck the 14th Amend. Q and actually mentioned “anchor babies” AND Obama’s illegal alien Aunt and Uncle. NICE! Cain sounded silly with the apples + oranges exchanges, and never adequately explained how people pay for sales tax anyway (in most states) and that this is in PLACE of the current Fed tax system. I like how no one pandered to the stupid “Latino” premise - nice work everyone. Ron Paul represented the Lynne Stewart wing with his “they’re only suspects at Gitmo!” harrangue (barf!). But my favorite part was Newt upbraiding Anderson TeaBag and demanding Lincoln-Douglas debates with the boy-king Obama. Can you just imagine Obama vs. Newt for 3 hours with no moderator? Obama would melt!
I agree. It was a pro Romney crowd. The libs want Romney because they know a lot of conservatives will stay home on voting day.
Newt doesn’t understand the mortgage business. His proposal that would allow people to refinance even when they’re underwater won’t work without fraudulent appraisals. He says local banks would refinance these loans. I wonder how long a local bank president would last when the board learned the bank had been making $150,000 loans on properties valued at $100,000.
Newt and Bachmann. she was great.
Yup. Pretty much why I still think it comes down to Romney and Perry. They can raise big money from the big donors, the others probably won't be able to compete. The people with the big bucks want to back a winner, and they will go with the safest options which are probably Mitt and Rick.
Still, much as I have my doubts about Cain being able to seriously compete, he really does come off as a true happy warrior. He is very likable, and while I don't support 999 because of the consumption tax, I do like that Herman is willing to put big things on the table.
I agree with you that 2/3rds of the electorate isn't paying attention, but I think you diminish the impact of these debates. Just look at Perry. He entered the race and was dominating the polls and it was looking like it was his race too lose. Perry then goes on to several miserable debate performances and his stupid "heartless" comment and he is almost down to single digit territory. While I think he can come back, and tonight was a good start, the debates do really matter because of the significant amount of coverage they get for days and weeks after the fact.
Santorum then Newt, then Mitt, then Cain (I say that not that he did bad, just didn’t mix it up much and they didn’t give him time).
I hate Mitt so much though, I wish there was someone there who made him look much worse.
30 seconds is not much time to make a point, let alone set a verbal trap in a debate. Hence, the best times were when both candidates talked at once. At these times the true thoughts of a candidate might come out.
A negative example was when Romney said he would repeal obama”care” and then said that he knew how to lower health costs. Oops, make up your mind Mitt!
Newt was the adult in the room, but stopped short on what his ideas would be.
Perry is tiring with his “I’ll get back to you on that” promises. Romney is VERY tiring with his “I know how to do it” approach. Romney chooses not to look the camera lens “in the eye” which may be a regional habit, not sure on that.
Paul really told it straight, and seemed to get the longest and loudest reception.
Santorium dug deep, but rather thin on his idea file.
Bachmann is a fighter, and would therefore make a great Veep.
The best ideas are still those of Herman Cain. He needs to ease up a bit, and be more of a good ol’ boy when he answers: talk slow, think fast.
I liked the various ideas, and the discussions. Best part was when Perry said “ Anderson, you get to ask the questions, and I get to answer them.”
Winner: The Republican Party for such a stellar group of Candidates with ideas.
I would have to say the unelectable, baggage toting, insider who had his pic made with Nanny Pelosi next President of these United States wins, again. As he is the only candidate with the wisdom and clarity to project well in these charades that pass for debates. Perhaps he’ll get his moment should the Demoncrat nominee (probably not Barry) take him on the Lincoln / Douglas format. So tell me how ANY one person on that stage is “electable”. Media dribble. O’Romney is praying for the fourth quarter to get here while the lame-stream media keep tinkering with the game clock. Michelle and Santorum offer up valid core concerns for conservatives that need to be heard at this level. They should continue sounding off until they become redundant then offer support to the “most rightward viable conservative in the field”. Only Perry, Cain and Newt have a snowballs chance. Perry comes off sounding like a school kid. Cain, bless his heart, is as well meaning as they come. But Herman, this is the big league, no OJT here. Hang out for a few years, perhaps in a cabinet level post and get back to me. RP is just being RP. Is it just me or did anyone else recognize how eerily Cooper looks like he could be Ron Paul’s offspring? And what’s with that Stalingrad/Castro uniform Bachmann wears? Yuk, was that a booger I saw on O’Romneys chin? Debates, ah what a pastime! That’s about as honest as it comes, dude!
Newt wins all the time. He is the knowledgeable adult in the room under all circumstances. Cain is OK but Newt slays them all. He is knowledgeable and cool under fire. Frankly, I’d hire him in a heart beat but pair him up with a finisher for his ideas. He is a CO that needs a very competent, energetic and willing XO.
I am a Cain guy. But I agree Newt won the debate. Cain needs to do better in explaining that the 9% NST is not a new tax added to the price of goods but replaces the hidden tax already added on to the price of goods before you take it off the self.
I prefer a Cain/Newt ticket but would be happy with they other way around.
Herman Cain was great with Newt second for his ability to disable the questions.
First of all, I’m a Conservative in Texas and I’m not a fan of Perry.
Now, tonight I thought Newt won, with Cain coming in second. I’m a huge Ron Paul fan, and he did well, but of course he got no facetime.
Bachmann needs to drop out. She is trying way too hard, and I got sick of hearing her laugh at everything any other candidate joked about. Santorum needs to go too, he is polling at about 1%.
The debate itself was a joke. I learned NOTHING I didn’t already know.
My ticket would be Keyes/Watts, or Watts/Keyes. :)
Is NOOT unelectable because YOU won’t vote for him??
Another flip I caught Mitt on, was when he stated belief in free market solutions, yet still proposed that states try to outbid/lobby one another for nuclear waste storage.
Thank You for your responses so far! I’m going to read each and every one tomorrow so I can gain some knowledge I so dearly desire.
Sons of Anarchy won...
I like that show on Netflix!
I only saw the last hour and I couldn’t tell you who “won”, but here are my impressions.
Cain - I liked him going in and that didn’t change after tonight. He seems to take the job seriously, but not himself. “Happy Warrior” is a good description. Not sure about the 9-9-9 business yet, but then can he implement that if he gets elected? I don’t see how. I liked him from the start. I’ll probably have to settle for another choice, though.
Newt - Doesn’t seem like anyone on stage really sees him as a threat. He’s got the easiest time of it. He doesn’t get attacked and he doesn’t attack. He’s like a grandfather who just makes a good conservative comment here and there and tries to keep the grandkids from fighting. Makes him look wise when he does that. Hope he sticks around just to keep the rest of them focused on Obama instead of throwing rocks at each other. Didn’t work so good tonight, though.
Romney - I’m not really into Mitt because I’m not really sure how he stands on issues. Who does? Seems to have a presidential demeanor, for whatever that’s worth. The haircut makes him look a little uglier, a little less Ken-like. Good idea. He’s the establishment pick at this point, I think, because other than repealing Pelosi-Care he won’t change much and that’s what the establishment is looking for.
Perry - Just from a speaking standpoint, how did he ever get elected as governor? His immigration stance is too off-putting for me to even consider him. Heard he got off some zingers on Romney, but so what? I can see him needing a teleprompter too.
Paul - Lots of people love to hate him, but he brought up some good questions. His demeanor and delivery suggest that an ambulance should be available because he might keel over soon, but that’s not really his fault. His crusade against the Federal Reserve is getting annoying.
Bachman - Speaking of annoying...I liked her in the beginning, but her “Did you know that I’m a mom and have 24 kids?” schtick is old already. If I hear it again I might scream. Didn’t hear it tonight, thank God. Don’t know how she did in the first hour, but in the second hour each question prompted a campaign speech that didn’t answer the question. She’ll be gone soon. I’m hoping before the next debate.
Santorum - Not his fault, but I’d rather listen to fingernails on a blackboard than to his voice. Maybe he’d come across better on radio? He’ll be gone soon too and I won’t be sorry about it. He did make me laugh when he suggested that he could carry PA and so win the election. Didn’t a candidate years ago carry one state and lose the other 49? Funny stuff for me.
I think the only candidates that will change (or attempt to change) anything in DC is either Paul or Cain.
There is no constitutional requirement that the president and vp be from different states, only that one state’s electoral votes can not cast for men of the same state as the electorals themselves. So in this case GA’s electoral votes could not go to both unless one registers in a different state.
This would not matter in most cases but would have made Joe Liberman VP in 2000 had Cheney not re-registered in WY prior to election. Cheney would not have received Teaxas’ 32 electoral votes and no candidate would have had a majority thereby throwing the election for VP to the newly divided senate where the old VP Gore would have broken tie for his running mate.
The fighting just generates a multitude of cips against whoever wins.
Newt won the debate. How can we ever get past his baggage? Newt has won every debate.
please explain what you mean by “personal.”
please explain what you mean by “personal.”
I though Romney lost. He seemed red-faced and irritated.
My son came in and asked who he was. He said he was snarling at the other candidates.
The one thing I noticed was that all the candidates except Cain and Newt had problem of coming up with solutions. The rest of them started their responses by stating “Like Herman said or As Newt said”
Agreed with Mr Larsen: I am on the Cain train, but Newt kicked serious butt
“Romney looked like plastic”
Oh yes. You nailed that description.
That was weird how he kept leaning over the podium.
I thought he was going to collapse there for a little while or just break up in little pieces and flake to the floor.
“Singapore watch” good one
Good points you make FRiend. I see the American public for what they are. Just when they expect a low performance or showing from a candidate, they take strict notice when the candidate surprises them by not fitting the image they had, or the one they were told to expect.
This is a great advantage for Perry at the moment. I expect he will rise up again. There is plenty of time and Perry is an old hand at this kind of thing. How else would Cain, who was nearly done, come back within mere hours?
One thing I am glad about and that is, the debate stage is no longer the big issue from here on out. The real campaign season has officially begun and Perry made it count when he most needed it.
—doesnt it seem like there are too many debates, the campaign season is too long and this is easy to get tired of.—
Yeah. I haven’t seen one yet. I just come here for the synopsis and try to get a few take away’s. It can be challenging though, because a lot (but not all) of the reviews here clearly come from very biased observers. Some do seem to get past their bias though.
And my interest, honestly, is in who is perceived as electable. Heck, they could all beat Obama. The real question is, who could beat whoever ends up being the Democratic candidate? It certainly will NOT be Obama.
Its well worth watching the entire series from the beginning, so you can properly appreciate everything that is going on this season....
One of the better shows on TV these days...
Newt was forced by Romney to fess up to an unconstitutional position —
supporting the individual mandate for health insurance
Big score for Romney.
Romney and Cain won
I agree. Most of Willy-Rom-Rom-RINO’S slip of the tongue came when his brain was working faster than his usually slick motor-mouth. I do dearly love long, high-stress campaigns, because the coached veneer starts to peel away and exposes the core traits of the candidate.
I would prefer fewer questions by the media “moderator” and more questions by the candidates. The media is so isolated from reality by promoting their own agendas that they are almost to annoying for words.
Have each candidate pose one question, and allow all the other candidates to give a 3 minute answer. Then have a 2 minute/candidate rebuttal, break for 3 minutes for commercials, WITH NO INSTANT ANALYSIS FROM THE MEDIA, OR THEIR LACKEYS.
Then go to the next candidates question, etc.
Newt has the right idea: stop the media from sound-bite headline journalism, and have a sincere discussion on the important issues before our Nation.
Pretty-Boys like Romney will be revealed as just-more-of-the-same candidates, who rely on “just-trust-me-because-I-know-what-I-am-doing” BS.
Give the candidates a micro chance to answer an essay exam, instead of the usual sound bite, true or false exam.
To the tabloid, pop-culture, hostile media: Show-case the IDEAS of a candidate, as we are VERY capable of deciding who WE want to represent us.
That’s how I see Newt. He is the insider the outsiders need to work over Congress.
His personal life.
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