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To: Deagle; Terpfen
Heh, you responded to my comment but addressed to Terpfen. I'll try to answer briefly.

> Most of those statements are just crap!

Oh, I daresay they're not, but you're welcome to your opinion.

> One - you buy on the internet from a know decent technology company.

Always, unless the local BestBuy (or. equiv.) has it cheaper and I'm in the neighborhood.

> Two - you buy individual items based on quality and performance. If you can’t build your own PC today, you are living in a cave. If you are a caveman, you can always get it built to your specifications from many sources at a minimal price.

Of course. I've been building my own computers since around 1975. And while I know what you mean (assemble modules), I also have built truly from scratch, wire-wrapping individual chips, for example. You can get off your high horse now, BTW.

> Three - You need to worry little about lifetime of the product because it will be out of date within 3 years at the most. No worries, you can always update individual components.

Sometimes true. I've however been disappointed multiple times by inexpensive lower-quality gear that broke within a year or so. I've never had a high-quality product (e.g. from Apple, Fujitsu, Samsung) crap out on me within its useful lifetime.

> Four - You shop around for price.

True but only AFTER you've selected the product you want based on the other factors. Find the best price on what you want, not the lowest price for something that isn't what you want.

> Five - Do NOT buy a complete product - it will not only be obsolete in 3 years, you will spend a fortune to upgrade it.

For most computers, true. For handhelds, nah, they're pretty much complete, period.

36 posted on 11/13/2011 9:41:00 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

heh, always nice to have an opinion from those in the know - or at least I think so...


“Always, unless the local BestBuy (or. equiv.) has it cheaper and I’m in the neighborhood.”

Geez, just who even considers BestBuy as a provider of best value?

“Of course. I’ve been building my own computers since around 1975. And while I know what you mean (assemble modules), I also have built truly from scratch, wire-wrapping individual chips, for example. You can get off your high horse now, BTW.”

Hehe, good for you... Wire wrapping chips - surely you are kidding! They did not have chips when I was wire-wrapping (Still have my wire-wrapping gun by the way). I was wire-wrapping long before you in the 60’s - but of course, they were much larger computer modules then...(by modules, I mean a conglomeration of components that the upper echelon decided was a “module”... Actually built my first semi-computer via wire-wrapping - called the TV typewriter.

Building you own computer is like assembling a coffee-pot today...

By the way, I did have a grand time when the first actual DTL and TTL chips actually were able to be purchased. That was where I learned most of my information. I was working for Datapoint when they introduced the first computer (and chip by accident). Had a fun time designing and building my own circuits...heh.

I was working with Datapoint when they introduced the first computer (4004 chip, 8008 chip, and eventually the 8080 chip), worked with the fellow that developed the xmodem protocal and other initial computer ideas... so - don’t get on your high-horse to me. Look it up on the internet!

“Three - You need to worry little about lifetime of the product because it will be out of date within 3 years at the most. No worries, you can always update individual components.”

Sometimes true. I’ve however been disappointed multiple times by inexpensive lower-quality gear that broke within a year or so. I’ve never had a high-quality product (e.g. from Apple, Fujitsu, Samsung) crap out on me within its useful lifetime.”

You seem to have had a fortunate experience that I have not had... Now I have had products last well beyond their usefulness though...but really needed tossing or upgrading.

“True but only AFTER you’ve selected the product you want based on the other factors. Find the best price on what you want, not the lowest price for something that isn’t what you want.”

Sorry, but the best price for a particular product that you want is just that - the best price for THAT product.

“Five - Do NOT buy a complete product - it will not only be obsolete in 3 years, you will spend a fortune to upgrade it.

For most computers, true. For handhelds, nah, they’re pretty much complete, period.”

Ah, yes, for computers that is absolutely true, for other items, probably less than 3 years. I was exaggerating a bit to state that the technology would hold for 3 years. For those products, you would probably have to upgrade every year or so...


40 posted on 11/13/2011 10:15:53 PM PST by Deagle
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To: dayglored
Find the best price on what you want, not the lowest price for something that isn't what you want.

That's a good philosophy for any major purchase: Washing machine, car, house....

41 posted on 11/13/2011 10:16:46 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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