The father of John the Baptiser, is the key to knowing when Mary became pregnant. The time when he was charged with Temple service, can be figured out, Mary came soon to tell her cousin the news that was foretold her about the Messiah. John was already within the womb, and Yeshua was within Mary. Figure out 9 months, and voila’....closer to September for his birth.
I will with the greatest lovingkindness, disagree with Artie.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Artie seems to only use the works of man; which always fail.I will explain with the help of the WORD of G-d through the
illumination of the Holy Spirit, who was sent to all mankind
to help us come to Know the Holy WORD of G-d.Chanukah is a great time for followers of the Jewish Messiah to celebrate.
The eight day Feast of Chanukah echoes of the eight days of the Feast of Tabernacles
Chanukah was most likely when the "light of the world"
(John 8:12) entered human form and tabernacled among us.
Feast of Tabernacles is the birth day of Yah'shua.
This question is answered when you believe and trust
the Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1.
Yah'shua's birth on Sukkot
(Sukkot is the Feast of Tabernacles or booths,
where we live in temporary shelters.
Sukkot is when YHvH took on a temporary
garment to be with His People
and to die as the Lamb of G-d on Pesach
in order to bring salvation to all
who would call on His NAME:
(Romans 10:13 & Joel 2:32)
Yah'shua ( YHvH is/be my salvation)).Exod. 15:2; 1 Sam. 2:1; 2 Sam. 22:47;
Ps. 18:2, 46; 27:1; 35:9; 38:22; 88:1;
118:14; 119:174; 140:7; Isa. 12:2; 56:1;
61:10; Mic. 7:7; Hab. 3:18Sukkot as the date is supported by Elizabeth's
pregnancy of John the Immerser.
The time sequence is outlined by the
Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1 with Zacharias.Zacharias served as a high priest and
based on his tribe, we know when he served
(1 Chronicles 24:7-18) and when he was
struck dumb and when John was conceived.John would have been born on Pesach.
Most Jews believed that Elijah
would come at Pesach to announce
the coming of the Messiah (Malachi 4:5).Factor in when Miriam visited her cousin Elizabeth,
Elizabeth was six months pregnant (Luke 1:26)
Thus the timing of Yah'shua's birth can be ascertained.John (1:14) tells us that Yah'shua was made flesh
and tabernacled among us.The word "dwelt" in the Koine Greek is:
σκηνόω Strong's G4637 - skēnoō
1) to fix one's tabernacle,
have one's tabernacle,
abide (or live) in a tabernacle (or tent),
tabernacle
2) to dwellEight days after the beginning of Sukkot is
another Holy Feast Day called Shemini Atzeret.Eight days after a Jewish male is born he is circumcised.
After the Eighth day comes the the most Joyous day:
Simchat Torah or
the rejoicing in the Torah (The WORD of Elohim).Nine months back from Sukkot is Chanukah
where the light entered the temple.
Seek the YHvH in His WORD.
See Psalm 118
8 It is better to take refuge in YHvH Than to trust in man.9 It is better to take refuge in YHvH Than to trust in princes.
14 YHvH is my strength and song, And He has become my salvation.
Appendix 179 —Companion Bible ,Kregel Publishers—gives about the most reasonable explanation I’ve seen. We ought be teaching it cellebrates when “the Word became flesh” or the
conception. But that would really anger the pro-abortion bunch and all those who insist it was just a gimmick to encourage the pagans to join with the cult of Rome. Appendix 179 Parallel datings of the Times of Our Lord /Dates of the Begetting and the Nativity & c / and the course of abia is worth consideration.
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The intent of the Syriac author that the McGowan uses to validate the claim by an allegiance of satanists, atheists, pagans and adventists that Christmas is from a pagan holiday probably had a propagandistic purpose. bar Salibi’s ideas were the only evidence found by these pagans to support their “guess” that Christmas spring from Sol Invictus, but bar Salibi is debating the CALENDAR.
The Eastern churches, to which bar Salibi, continued to use the older Julian calendar to date Christmas. The Western church, noting that the days were drifiting from their astronomical significance, switched to the Gregorian calendar. This reliance on Rome put Christmas back on the day of Sol Invictus, which Salibi uses for propagandistic purposes.
But we know from several ancient sources that great prophets were held to have died on the day of their conception, so that their “conception into Heaven” would harmonize with their conception on Earth. The date of Jesus’ conception into Heaven was 200 A.D.
The intent of the Syriac author that the McGowan uses to validate the claim by an allegiance of satanists, atheists, pagans and adventists that Christmas is from a pagan holiday probably had a propagandistic purpose. bar Salibi’s ideas were the only evidence found by these pagans to support their “guess” that Christmas spring from Sol Invictus, but bar Salibi is debating the CALENDAR.
The Eastern churches, to which bar Salibi, continued to use the older Julian calendar to date Christmas. The Western church, noting that the days were drifiting from their astronomical significance, switched to the Gregorian calendar. This reliance on Rome put Christmas back on the day of Sol Invictus, which Salibi uses for propagandistic purposes.
But we know from several ancient sources that great prophets were held to have died on the day of their conception, so that their “conception into Heaven” would harmonize with their conception on Earth. The date of Jesus’ conception into Heaven was 200 A.D.
Further, the feast of the Dedication, when God dwelt among the Jews in His holy Temple, was on 25 Kislev, which, on average occurs near the 25th of December. (It’s the last day of Hannukah.) This date was set more than a century before Christ.
In contrast, In Sol Invictus was a holiday made up in the fourth century in Rome, to revive the Roman cult, which was in decline because of the spread of Christianity; so it’s far more likely that In Sol Invictus was set to Christmas, than the other way around.
Some scholars say that the timing of this division of “Abijah” puts the CONCEPTION of Jesus on December 25...which is how many cultures count birthdates; they use the date of conception. This would be the day that God came to earth as a humanbeing.
http://www.luziusschneider.com/Papers/JesusDateOfBirth.htm
I don't vouch for any of it, I just post for amusement of others. I do not care when he was actually born, but the fact that he has made the darkest days of our winter, bright. The darkest days of the winters of our lives as well! Jesus brings light to the darkness!