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Include Me Out - Mark Steyn
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Posted on 12/15/2011 9:05:09 AM PST by passionfruit

Re that NR editorial, I would like, politely, to dissent from my colleagues’ dismissal of Perry and Bachmann.

In the former case, a handful of poor debate performances should not disqualify a man from executive responsibility: Our age’s veneration for men with “nothing to do but think and talk” (in Churchill’s words, on the sort of chaps he didn’t want in his war cabinet) is one reason why the Western world is sliding off a cliff.

In the latter case, Congresswoman Bachmann has fought a principled, conservative campaign with only one significant misstep — her overreach on the Gardasil business. Again, that shouldn’t be a disqualification. Nor should having more chiefs of staff than she has foster children (I speak as a guy who believes citizen-legislators shouldn’t have chiefs of staff, anyway). To be sexist about it, President Bachmann at her best would be another Thatcher and at her worst another Merkel — and Chancellor Merkel currently presides over the least worst Western economy. What’s not to like? Go, Michele!

As for the assertion of our more hysterical commenters that being reluctant to support a man with an office on K Street and a retainer from Freddie Mac is a sure sign that NRO is full of Beltway cocktail-sippers angling for cosy sinecures in the Romney administration, yeah, sure, whatever: Fellows who try this line of attack on me have failed as spectacularly as it’s possible to fail. But, just for the record, in recent years I’ve visited Washington, D.C., once every 18 months or so, and plan to cut it down to once every 24 months in the next half-decade. And I have no interest in serving as Deputy Assistant Under-Secretary of the Department of Paperwork under Mitt or anyone else. Anyone who thinks that sentient beings require an ulterior motive to be wary of a Newt nomination should have an herbal tea and lie down in a darkened room for half an hour.


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To: Huck

>> You Newt supporters are compromising just as much as anyone else.

Not half as bad as the arrogant, self-serving jackasses that drag us down in protest.


41 posted on 12/16/2011 12:50:42 AM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: passionfruit

I’ll vote Perry or Bachmann or Santorum before either Newt or Romney.


42 posted on 12/16/2011 12:58:08 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: passionfruit
To be sexist about it, President Bachmann at her best would be another Thatcher and at her worst another Merkel — and Chancellor Merkel currently presides over the least worst Western economy. What’s not to like? Go, Michele!
43 posted on 12/16/2011 12:59:58 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Newt sold me tonight when he talked about the scumbag activist liberal judges.
He sounded serious about holding them accountable.


44 posted on 12/16/2011 1:08:27 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: passionfruit

I like Steyn’s words about Bachmann. She and Santorum have run the two most conservative campaigns left.

However, vox populi seems to have decided my choice is between a shape-shifting big-government loving onetime conservative and a shape-shifting big-government loving never-conservative.

No thanks to both Noot and Myth.


45 posted on 12/16/2011 7:21:46 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: Sideshow Bob

Who do you think he was working with when he supported Scozzafava?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL8ASTKlGpA

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/gingrich-to-be-a-public-face-of-cantors-effort-to-remake-gop/

Gingrich Joins Cantor’s Effort To Remake GOP

Newt Gingrich has joined Eric Cantor’s new effort to remake the GOP for the future, a Cantor spokesperson confirms.

“Speaker Gingrich will be joining the National Council for a New America as one of the members of our national panel of experts,” Cantor spokesperson Joe Pounder tells me, confirming a Chris Cillizza item based on anonymous sources.

“It is generally recognized that Speaker Gingrich is a man who’s putting forth bold ideas in the party,” Pounder continues. “It’s only natural that he would join an organization that seeks to apply conservative principles to everyday challenges. That’s what Speaker Gingrich has been doing for the past couple of years.”

Cantor’s group has taken some hits from Mike Huckabee and other conservatives who argue that the group has de-emphasized social issues in an effort to rebrand the GOP at the expense of social conservatives. Rush Limbaugh slammed the group as a “scam.”

(snip)

http://republicanwhip.house.gov/newsroom/2009/04/national-council-for-a-new-america-formed.html

Our National Panel of Experts:

Governor Haley Barbour
Governor Jeb Bush
Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator John McCain
Governor Mitt Romney

(snip)

Sincerely,

John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt

Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Ensign, John Cornyn, John Thune, Kay Bailey Hutchison


46 posted on 12/16/2011 7:41:16 AM PST by maggief
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To: Huck
And as I said, for me, Bugs Bunny is still in the running.

Hey, why not. If the only standard being used is "better than Obama" or "better than Romney," Bugs most certainly qualifies. He's clever. In fact he's the smartest rabbit in every room he ever swaggered into. And no one has ever out-debated him. Count me in!


47 posted on 12/16/2011 7:42:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, plus I could never vote for Mickey Mouse. I never liked Disney.


48 posted on 12/16/2011 7:48:10 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: indylindy
Palin isn’t running. She was shopping a reality show in the last couple weeks. She did not and does not want the job. Get it? It is not until people get that though their heads that she does not want the job, that we will get anywhere.

****

Hey moron, try a little reading comprehension! I posted:

I will NEVER vote for Romney.
I voted for Palin and her running mate in 2008.

Please note the past tense usage of the verb vote and the year.

Now put it into the context of this thread which is conservatives seeking to buck the dictates of the Establishment Elitist GOP.

To anyone with a half a brain and a modicum of reading comprehension skills the message of my post was:

1) There are no circumstances under which I will vote for the country club's pre-ordained candidate Mitt Romney, and
2) In 2008, I really didn't want to vote for the country club's pre-ordained candidate John McCain so much so that I identified Sen. McCain (R-Crazy) as "running mate" AND could only rationaliz my loathing for the GOP Elite and forced electoral choice by telling myself I was voting for Sarah Palin.

At no time in this thread did I state, suggest, imply or allow the reader to infer that Sarah Palin is running for President in 2012, wants the job in 2012 or should run in 2012 or should want to run in 2012.

Your response to my original post makes no sense. Thanks for playing, though. Better luck next time.

49 posted on 12/16/2011 10:36:58 AM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: maggief
Who do you think he was working with when he supported Scozzafava?

...Newt Gingrich has joined Eric Cantor’s new effort to remake the GOP for the future, a Cantor spokesperson confirms.

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Has Gingrich supported Establishment candidates or causes in the past? Obviously, yes.

Is Eric Cantor a RINO weenie? Again, obviously yes.

But Paul Ryan (or insert some other alleged GOP conservative hero) has supported Cantor and the current GOP Establishment a lot more often and a lot more recently than Gingrich.

Again, the proof of who is the Beltway Insider in the 2012 GOP primary is NOT who has previously supported Establishment candidates or causes.

The proof is WHO THE GOP ELITIST ESTABLISHMENT SUPPORTS IN THE 2012 GOP PRIMARY AND WHO THE GOP ELITIST ESTABLISHMENT HAS ATTACKED IN THE 2012 GOP PRIMARY!!!

The GOP Establishment nearly unanimously supports Romney and has almost uniformly attacked Gingrich.

I will only add that any crediblity your post and quotes might have had was completely lost when I read:

...Cantor’s group has taken some hits from Mike Huckabee and other conservatives...

The Right Reverand Tax Hike Mike is NOT and NEVER has been a political conservative. And neither is/was Romney.

On an ideological issue basis I am more closely aligned with (in order) Bachmann, Santorum, Perry and then Gingrich. For a variety of reasons, I don't think Bachmann, Santorum or Perry can win. My next best option is Gingrich and - unless someone better enters the race - I intend to support and vote for Newt.

50 posted on 12/16/2011 11:15:55 AM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: Reagan Man

Steyn trashed Newt:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2817912/posts


51 posted on 12/16/2011 8:48:50 PM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: dervish

Steyn didn’t trash Newt, but he is highly critical of Newt and for the most part I happen to agree with him. I know Newt very well. He got my attention some 30 years ago and went on to impress me in the ‘90s. Newt has always been a technocrat of sorts. On the downside, in the last dozen years Newt has gone from being a Reagan conservative to a big govt Republican with some serious personal baggage. Newt will get a last man standing vote from me. I’m just not buying everything Newt is selling.


52 posted on 12/16/2011 9:28:20 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
Newt could be 2012’s GOP version of John McCain v.2008, and we all know how that turned out.

Well Newt is no McCain and that's for sure. For starters I don't believe that Newt would give orders to not call Hussein by his middle name as McLame did. Newt would attack the commie faker full on and embarrass Barry Hussein in any debate that Hussein would agree to, which BTW I have my doubts that the commie would agree to debate Newt at all knowing full well that he is not on an intellectual plain with Gingrich.

Anyway, I disagree with your assessment.

53 posted on 12/17/2011 2:29:50 PM PST by mc5cents
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