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Vivid new Battle of the Bulge photos offer never-before-seen look....
Dailymail ^ | 12-17-11

Posted on 12/17/2011 5:48:40 PM PST by InvisibleChurch

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To: packrat35
This is an M36 Gun Motor Carriage (aka “Slugger”) — a tank destroyer — with the 90mm gun M3. The M3 gun could defeat most German armor encountered, but the TD armor was even thinner than the M4 Sherman tanks. By 1945, M18 Hellcats (76mm gun) and M36 Sluggers were replacing all towed AT guns and prime movers due to heavy casualties during the Battle of the Bulge.

Each armored division was usually composed three armored regiments plus a headquarters. One of the armored regiments was held in division reserve and the other two were fighting regiments. Breakdown of the armored regiment was:
1 Tank Regiment, less one battalion
1 or 2 Infantry Battalion
1 Artillery Battalion
1 AAA Battery
1 Engineer Company
1 Tank Destroyer Company (12 TD)
1 Medical Company
1 Maintenance Company.

Each regiment was broken into two Task Forces:
TF-1
Tank Regimental HQ
1 Tank Battalion
1 Infantry Battalion less one company
1 Platoon of Engineers
1 Platoon of Tank Destroyers (4 TD)

TF-2
1 Tank Battalion
1 Infantry Company
1 Platoon of Engineers
1 Platoon of Tank Destroyers (4 TD)

The division included 158 light tanks, 232 medium tanks, 36 tank destroyers, 24 M4 105mm assault guns, 17 M8 assault guns, 54 M7 105mm SP artillery pieces, 54 M8 armored cars, 640 halftracks, 1,242 motor vehicles, and 8 light observation aircraft. The total personnel strength of the division was 14,664 (plus attachments).

161 posted on 12/18/2011 8:57:20 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: alarm rider

Did your Dad fly “The hump’?


162 posted on 12/18/2011 9:19:12 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: MasterGunner01

According to the old family bible, he was in 628th Tank Destroyer Bn (website about them here http://www.5ad.org/units/628td.html )


163 posted on 12/18/2011 10:44:55 PM PST by packrat35 (Heartless)
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To: packrat35
Tank destroyer battalions were units that attached to either armored or infantry divisions. Doctrine at the time called for these tank destroyer units to hunt and kill the enemy's tanks. Unfortunately, Army doctrine was faulty.

Initially TD battalions were a mix of towed AT guns and self propelled AT guns (called Gun Motor Carriages). These GMC were built on the M4 tank chassis and had thin, angled armor. These GMC in the M10-M10A1 series had open topped turrets and the 3-inch gun M7. Armor was sacrificed for speed. Unfortunately, this did not work because the TDs were pressed into service as tanks (they looked like them, but they weren't). This put the TD at a tactical disadvantage because it was to operate from ambush and not perform the assault role the tanks were to do.

Heavier German armor encountered in the Medirerranean Theater of Operations (and later European Theater of Operations) resulted in the upgrade of the M10s to a bigger gun. The rebuilt M10s were called M36s and carried the 90mm gun M3 in a larger, redesigned turret. The new 90mm gun helped level the battlefield when it came to knocking out the Tigers and Panthers, but did nothing to remedy the weak armor and lack of overhead protection for crewmen.

The M36 came in three distinct versions:

M36 — 90mm gun turret on 3” GMC M10A1 hull (M4A3 chassis) (1,298 produced/converted).

M36B1 — 90mm gun turret on Medium Tank M4A3 hull and chassis (187 produced/converted).

M36B2 — 90mm gun turret on 3” GMC M10 hull (M4A2 chassis, diesel) (287 produced/converted).

Total of all M36 produced/converted: 1,772.

164 posted on 12/18/2011 11:45:24 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Drew68

When I was stationed in Germany I met a man who was a POW in the US for three years. He told me that he loved it - he farmed potatoes in Idaho.

That 15 year-old German soldier probably lived to see better days.


165 posted on 12/19/2011 12:03:29 AM PST by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: gortklattu
That 15 year-old German soldier probably lived to see better days.

No kidding. While my Grandfather was a US Army combat engineer in the ETO (and took part in the Bulge), there was more than one male member of the German side of the family in the Wehrmacht.

Years later my Mom stayed with them for about a month while touring Europe during college. One of the older guys had been captured near the end of the war. He talked at great length about how being a POW with the Americans was MUCH better than being a soldier in the Wehrmacht. Apparently the first food the Americans gave him after being captured was a Hershey bar.
166 posted on 12/19/2011 4:04:47 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: CatherineofAragon

I do the same for my grandfather. I never knew him (he died the year I was born, with German shrapnel still in him) but I always look to see the guy they called “Stick”.


167 posted on 12/19/2011 4:41:52 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: af_vet_rr
I've read that some units were still equipped with the clothing/gear that they had when they landed in France in June and July.

In order to move all the materiel they needed to launch Market-Garden in the fall they had to cancel delivery of winter gear. Had Market-Garden succeeded the war would have been over before winter. It was a gamble that obviously failed. The liberation of Paris also bears some blame. US Generals wanted to avoid freeing the city because it would eat up needed resources, especially fuel. They were over ruled but US troops paid the consequences.

168 posted on 12/19/2011 4:49:54 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: 1rudeboy

There’s a “-4F” statement in the article.


169 posted on 12/19/2011 6:10:10 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

My GGG grandfather had had two descendants killed in that battle two weeks and 5 miles apart. The first Victor J. Mangin was a member of the 110th infantry killed at Munshausen Lux on December 17th.(w/o their stand their wouldn’t have been any 101st at Bastogne)and Ralph C. Dages a member of the 134th infantry killed on January 1st.


170 posted on 12/19/2011 6:22:55 AM PST by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: aflaak

Ping


171 posted on 12/19/2011 7:50:31 AM PST by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“Thank you so much for this. My late father fought in this battle. I know it’s silly, but when I see pics/films from the BOTB, I always look at the faces to see if one of them might be him.”

That’s exactly what I do all the time. I look for him. He passed away seven years ago.
My Dad was in the 82nd. He had four combat jumps in WWII and two in the Korean Conflict. I just watched an old tv interview he did with a town historian. He describes those trenches. The same as the ones in these pictures, I guess. He talks about the Germans fleeing when they dropped in at 1:00 am....about five hours before the beach forces. He said taking over those trenches saved them a lot of digging. He was 20 years old.


172 posted on 12/19/2011 9:44:08 AM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: unkus

No, he flew fighter support for those that did.


173 posted on 12/19/2011 3:40:55 PM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: Squantos; InvisibleChurch; Travis McGee; SLB
Wow.....

And here's the story that goes with the pictures....

The Lonely War of Lt. Eric Fisher Wood, Jr.

Saturday Evening Post, December 20, 1947
by R. Ernest Dupuy, Col. USA, Ret.

Told for the first time, the story of a young lieutenant who almost single-handedly saved the right flank of an American army in the Battle of the Bulge, "the most amazing example of heroism in World War II."

DARING indeed would be he who named one individual as the epitome of human heroism. Through the ages, men of all nations and all races have fought well and died well. Once in a great while, however, a man emerges who, under extraordinary circumstances, flings down the gauntlet to death, defies fate, says farewell to the conflict only when breath leaves his body. Since chance - and chance alone - decides whether or not there be witnesses to such an exploit, let us say of what follows only that it is the most amazing example of heroism as yet to come out of World War II.

The rest of the story. Merry Christmas, 1944.

174 posted on 12/19/2011 3:52:55 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: packrat35
According to the old family bible, he was in 628th Tank Destroyer Bn (website about them here http://www.5ad.org/units/628td.html )

Information regarding the location and operation during the Offensive can be found here.

175 posted on 12/19/2011 4:12:23 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: wordsofearnest

Valient men.


176 posted on 12/19/2011 5:46:29 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: ntnychik

When I came across this thread you were the first person I thought of. I knew you would be so interested, knowing your Dad’s war background.

It’s no wonder they were called ‘the greatest generation’.


177 posted on 12/19/2011 7:49:33 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: dixiechick2000

[Wow! Those pictures are breathtaking!]

They sure are and I’m glad you saw them.
Merry Christmas to you too DC. I’m still ‘getting ready’, lol.


178 posted on 12/19/2011 8:04:17 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

BTTT


179 posted on 12/20/2012 5:51:29 AM PST by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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