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Last Neanderthals near the Arctic Circle?
Past Horizons ^
| Tuesday, December 27, 2011
| CNRS press release
Posted on 12/29/2011 10:14:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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Byzovaya site. © Photo Ludovic Slimak
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12/29/2011 10:14:13 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
Map showing the location of the Byzovaya site, in the northern Urals. Image: Science/AAAS
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12/29/2011 10:16:01 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
? hangs over the Mousterians. Oh, sorry.
Mousterian tool from Byzovaya. © Photo Ludovic Slimak
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12/29/2011 10:16:41 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
Ludovic Slimak and Pavel Pavlov examining a mammoth tusk in Byzovaya. © Photo Hugues Plisson
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12/29/2011 10:16:53 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
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12/29/2011 10:17:51 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
The last refuge of Neandertal is in the human genome. The last refuge of Neandertal is FR religion threads. Oh...wait...they are bloodthirsty troglodytes...my bad.
To: SunkenCiv
My brother-in-law never said anything about relatives up there.
/johnny
To: SunkenCiv
Mousterian culture? That sounds like something from a Victor Herbert musical.
The Mousterian King was depicted by Tchaikovsky in the Nutcracker.
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
12/29/2011 10:56:55 PM PST
by
GOP Poet
(Time for Bambi and his commie crew to go.)
To: SunkenCiv
Just a passing thought, but I wonder if they were refugees? Last survivors of the losing side of some ancient, nonviolent conquest/displacement? Forced to live in a marginal environment due to an influx of more aggressive, more adaptable homo sapiens?
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posted on
12/29/2011 11:12:05 PM PST
by
Little Pig
(Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
To: SunkenCiv
First came the Meanderthals, they wandered around a lot.
The came the Oleanderthals, bunch of flower pickers.
Finally the Kneeanderthals, couldn't run away from predators because their knees were bad from all that bending down to pick flowers and walking around without Orthotic Insoles in their sandals.
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posted on
12/29/2011 11:21:55 PM PST
by
count-your-change
(You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: Little Pig; SunkenCiv
Last survivors of the losing side of some ancient, nonviolent conquest/displacement? The history of mankind is brutal, merciless slaughter. Run to the hills. Run for your life.
To: Little Pig; SunkenCiv; bigheadfred; JRandomFreeper
If I understand correctly, there wasn’t much difference in lifestyle between Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens until about twenty thousand years ago. Then suddenly there was an explosion of advancements in tools, weapons, clothing and especially art and Homo Sapiens vaulted ahead.
It’s still a mystery what got switched on in our heads but I guess the alien monolith from 2001 zapping our ancestors and turbocharging their brains is as good as any.
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12/29/2011 11:28:44 PM PST
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sinanju
To: bigheadfred
The history of mankind is brutal, merciless slaughter. Run to the hills. Run for your life. I LOLed at that. It's spot on true.
We be bad... We mostly own carnivores for pets... imagine a species that uses meat eaters for pets.
I'm ok with it... and so are the catz...
/johnny
To: sinanju
Last I heard... the French cave neandertals were as advanced as sapiens on tool making 30K years ago. They did have thrusting spears and we had throwing spears... and there may have been interaction..
But I personally think they couldn't handle the weather change. And my former BIL is just a hold-over.
/johnny
To: JRandomFreeper
Ancient Mouseterian hunter gatherers
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posted on
12/30/2011 12:02:09 AM PST
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47samurai
(The last real conservative)
To: SunkenCiv
I find it interesting that the Neanderthals died out right about the time that the interglacial warming period began. I don’t make anything of that but the timing is interesting. Just their bad luck?
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posted on
12/30/2011 12:14:43 AM PST
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TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
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12/30/2011 12:21:43 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: Little Pig; bigheadfred; sinanju; JRandomFreeper; TigersEye
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12/30/2011 12:34:40 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: bigheadfred; JRandomFreeper; afraidfortherepublic; count-your-change; 47samurai
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12/30/2011 12:35:42 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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