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To: allmendream

I said I thought that I didn’t believe it until I knew someone that had it.

What bothers me is that we didn’t have (or notice) these things when I grew up. I never heard of any kid having a peanut allergy, never and I also never heard of anyone having a problem with milk and back then, everyone’s lunch had those little cartons of milk in them.

Now, I know peanut allergies aren’t just inconvenient but deadly and I wonder where it came from, what is different? I think I would have heard of a another kid dying, I grew up in a small community.

What has changed, that’s what I would like to know because what if the allergens increase increase in the number of people they affect and what if instead of an upset GI system, what if they turn deadly?


52 posted on 01/09/2012 1:37:00 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
Lactose tolerance is very population dependent - if you grew up in an area with a population that was fairly homologous then it wouldn't be surprising that almost every kid you knew growing up was lactose tolerant.

But the majority of the human race is not!

As for allergens, it is thought that our increase in hypersensitive allergic “peanut” kids might be because of an increase in ‘helicopter’ parent who limit exposure to dirt and other common things that could invoke a more benign allergic response. Lacking stimulus on what to mount an immune response against - the “peanut kid”’s immune system mounts an illogically robust response to peanuts!

Allergens ARE deadly. Anaphalactic shock can kill in seconds.

56 posted on 01/09/2012 1:46:29 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Lx
What has changed, that’s what I would like to know because what if the allergens increase increase in the number of people they affect and what if instead of an upset GI system, what if they turn deadly?

What has changed is modern medicine.

People who had bad allergies used to die, but now our level of medicine allows them to not only stay alive but they can procreate and pass their genes on to their progeny.

It is not survival of the fittest any more.

59 posted on 01/09/2012 2:01:19 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Lx

2 big things have changed:
The internet has caused all news to be national. We find out about all kinds of crap all over the place now we never would have before. 1 kid in Wisconsin dies of peanut allergies now the whole world finds out.

Our medical community has a lot more labels they like to waive around now. Back in the 70s and before if you were non-fatally allergic to some food it was “too rich for you” or “made you gassy” or “didn’t get along with you”. Now you’re lactose intolerant, or suffer from celiac or whatever the label is. Add these labels to the internet and the whole situation seems to explode, but really it’s still the same small percentage of the population having problems with a subset of the food.


65 posted on 01/09/2012 3:25:30 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Lx

I think the unusual protein allergies (nuts, shellfish, etc) that have come about in such quantities in the last decade or two might have something to do with the sheer number of vaccines given under 6 months of age. There are all lot of things in there, the media, preservatives, bits of protein like the eggs some rely upon for media, and of course the strong immune adjuvants, that it such quantities may really slam the immune system, starting a lifetime of autoimmune reactions.

It’s got to be SOMETHING in infancy that really whacks the immune system, and these quantities of vaccines, many of which are not that effective anyway, may be just the culprit.

Why do many kids seem to have no ill effects from their vaccines? Well, do we know that? Maybe they will end up with neurodegenerative diseases later on, like Parkinsons and Alzheimers, both also increasing in frequency lately.


68 posted on 01/09/2012 4:32:18 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Lx
Peanuts reaction to possibly: “Hygiene Hypothesis.”

I grew some "white strawberries" or alpine as visually match when I did a search. I bought them not knowing they were white. Pulled them out the first growing season, thinking was too shady do no color but for their "eyes or spots". This year filled in [thought I had pulled them out] beautifully and made an attractive ground cover [could prune] in part shade which they seem to enjoy--I found in researching that the red color is from a protein and is the reason for some to have an allergy to strawberries but not so when the protein is missing, as in the white. They are small but larger than "wild" and are really sweet with a pineapple taste-difficult to describe. So in this case this protein "Fra a1" was not in the white. And birds are not a problem as they cannot see them. I passed on many plants to others who liked the taste.

Who knows how our food is altered over time or GE enhanced in some way. There are people like me who only like milk and dairy-butter, eggs, yogurt, cheeses- and meat from the local farmers and not the corporation milk/brands. I rarely see the inside of a corporation supermarket unless am by a Whole Foods.

69 posted on 01/09/2012 4:42:41 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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