CPAC Convention?

[GoCards]

Did anyone see Marco Rubio just speak 9:30am?

[GoCards]

A stunning speech. I just love him. Waiting for the youtube post.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

I'll start the countdown to the "he's ineligible to be President" chorus that will soon invade.

Fortunately, even fewer people will be listening to them by the time Rubio makes his own run.

[Crazy ole coot]

Well, I won’t keep you waiting. He is NOT eligible. I will continue to honor my oath to defend and support the Constitution and will NEVER vote for an ineligible candidate. If we (GOP) don’t honor the Constitution, how can we expect the libs to honor it?

I have conducted many background investigations for security clearances in and for the military. I do believe that I understand the requirements and I understand the requirements for the President and Vice President. The President and Vice President requirements are stricter than for security clearances. A Natural Born Citizen is a person born in the United States of two citizen parents and a law cannot change the Constitution. It must be changed by an Amendment.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

I have conducted many background investigations for security clearances in and for the military. I do believe that I understand the requirements and I understand the requirements for the President and Vice President. The President and Vice President requirements are stricter than for security clearances

You obviously have your own interpretation about what those requirements should be, but the fact is that not a single court agrees with you. Security clearances are a matter of statute and have nothing to do with the NBC requirement. I know folks with some extremely high clearances, and both of their parents were not U.S. citizens.

[Crazy ole coot]

So far, the merits of the cases have not been heard, except in GA where they just received notice of two reactors are to be built.

I know that there is a difference between the requirements of security clearances and President. President “requires” that they be a Natural Born Citizen which even the Supreme Court has said is two citizen parents born on the soil.

Therefore, Sen Rubio is NOT eligible, the same as Mr. obama.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

I know that there is a difference between the requirements of security clearances and President. President “requires” that they be a Natural Born Citizen which even the Supreme Court has said is two citizen parents born on the soil.

That is simply not true. You can make an argument that's what they should have said, or that they have suggested that's what they might have said had the issue been presented squarely. But there is no informed argument that the Supreme Court has ever held as you claim.

If that's the level of your expertise on this, I'll just leave you to your opinion.

[Crazy ole coot]

Not my opinion:

Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874)

and

” ‘The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority; they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.’ ” Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393, 476 (1856)

[Mike10542]

Why do you even bother trying to reason with birthers? Nothing will ever change their mind, neither facts nor the truth. Let them enoy birther land.

[Mike10542]

Why do you even bother trying to reason with birthers? Nothing will ever change their mind, neither facts nor the truth. Let them enoy birther land.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Hey, that language you quoted from the Supreme Court. Was that actually from the majority opinion? I mean, you wouldn't try to pass off statements that appear only in a concurring opinion or dissenting opinion as constituting valid statements of law by the Supreme Court itself, would you?

Or maybe you would.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

It's not about them. It's about those folks who may not be familiar with their bogus arguments, and who think it must be true if unchallenged.

But yeah, it gets old.

I sort of wonder what those Brithers think about us conservatives who disagree. What is our motive to reject an argument that a President we despise is ineligible for office? We have every incentive to accept sand support such an argument if valid. I hadn't even heard about this whole issue until this controversy. But when people started claiming that some Swiss guys' view of the law, rather than English law, would operate as the default interpretation for an undefined Constitutional clause, I was kind of stunned. They have to be kidding, right?

But apparently, they're serious.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

It's not about them. It's about those folks who may not be familiar with their bogus arguments, and who think it must be true if unchallenged.

But yeah, it gets old.

I sort of wonder what those Birthers think about us conservatives who disagree. What is our motive to reject an argument that a President we despise is ineligible for office? We have every incentive to accept sand support such an argument if valid. I hadn't even heard about this whole issue until this controversy. But when people started claiming that some Swiss guys' view of the law, rather than English law, would operate as the default interpretation for an undefined Constitutional clause, I was kind of stunned. They have to be kidding, right?

But apparently, they're serious.