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To: Harlan1196
But his mother was an America citizen and subject to the jurisdiction of.

If you want to argue he has 14th amendment citizenship, we can go that direction too. Show me proof that he was actually born *in* a state that happens to issue birth certificates to the children of Hawaiian residents regardless where they were born.

Even if we could see ACTUAL proof that he was born in Hawaii, this does not make him a "natural citizen" it makes him a citizen by operation of the 14th amendment. (Citizen by statute. 14th Amendment AND the Cable act.) "Natural citizens" existed prior to the 14th amendment, and did not require it's operation to be "natural citizens."

Looks like little Obama was ok.

Yes, a "conservative" declaring that Obama is perfectly legitimate has always felt peculiar to me. One that goes out of his way to argue the point even more so. One that rejects evidence, and twists everything he can find against it's proper and correct meaning can only be described as suffering from some sort of pathology.

Neither Ann or George seem to support a two citizen parent rule.

There you go again. You could just as well say they didn't seem to support a male/female parent rule. The one thing is axiomatic and obvious of the other. The Two parent thing is automatic. During the time frame of the 14th amendment, (discussed by both) it was not possible to have a split marriage. Women were regarded as being of the same nationality as their husbands. (We covered this. You were apparently asleep.)

496 posted on 02/22/2012 9:08:58 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Ann Coulter: ‘Birthers’ Are Wrong

"For CNN, or MSNBC, or you, Geraldo - the liberal on Fox - bringing this out as if it's an issue, you know, it's just a few cranks out there. It's like when the networks bring on the three remaining Klanners in America."

http://www.breitbart.tv/ann-coulter-birthers-are-wrong/

George Will:

Huckabee, now a Fox News host, was asked by Steve Malzberg, a talk radio host, this:

“Don’t you think it’s fair also to ask [Barack Obama] . . . how come we don’t have a health record, we don’t have a college record, we don’t have a birth cer — why, Mr. Obama, did you spend millions of dollars in courts all over this country to defend against having to present a birth certificate. It’s one thing to say, I’ve — you’ve seen it, goodbye. But why go to court and send lawyers to defend against having to show it? Don’t you think we deserve to know more about this man?”

Huckabee should have replied, “I’ve seen paranoia, goodbye.”

But the nominee may emerge much diminished by involvement in a process cluttered with careless, delusional, egomaniacal, spotlight-chasing candidates to whom the sensible American majority would never entrust a lemonade stand, much less nuclear weapons.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gops-2012-field-is-down-to-five/2011/03/04/ABsEwuN_story.html

I don't think either is on your side. Why would they secretly embrace the two citizen parent argument while publicly saying Obama is eligible?

497 posted on 02/22/2012 12:07:07 PM PST by Harlan1196
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