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Borderline Personnality Disorder
My own purposes | 24 Febuary

Posted on 02/24/2012 6:14:16 PM PST by M.K. Borders

Does anyone have a 1-800 number for a help line dedicated to the families of BPD?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: borderline; borderlines; bpd; personalitydisorder
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1 posted on 02/24/2012 6:14:18 PM PST by M.K. Borders
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To: M.K. Borders

but if you find out let me know i will check back


2 posted on 02/24/2012 6:17:06 PM PST by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: M.K. Borders
Google your title.

Here's one = 24 Hour Help Line 1-877-345-3350.

3 posted on 02/24/2012 6:20:55 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: M.K. Borders
Don't know about 800 number, but the author of the book “Stop Walking On Eggshells” behind this site is excellent in my experience.

http://www.bpdcentral.com/bks/swoe.php

IMO, this book is one of the most perfectly targeted book on any subject that I have ever read...because it described my ex-wife and mother of my children and their twisted relationship perfectly!

There is excellent self-help advice in the book...beginning with SAVE YOURSELF FIRST!

4 posted on 02/24/2012 6:21:01 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: M.K. Borders

Is this for Obama?


5 posted on 02/24/2012 6:24:04 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: M.K. Borders
http://www.tara4bpd.org/dyn/index.php

Don't know anything about the organization, just googled it.

6 posted on 02/24/2012 6:25:06 PM PST by Truth29
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To: M.K. Borders
Key takeaway with borderlines is they cannot tolerate “invalidation” and will attack anyone that they perceive to have invalidated them.

When they have been “invalidated” (could be as simple as having a different opinion) they perceive this as an excruciatingly painful intentional attack on their core being and they strike back...frequently without warning!

Thus the title of the book “Stop Walking On Eggshells.” Folks walk on eggshells around borderlines because they never know when they have accidentally pulls the pin on the grenade.

7 posted on 02/24/2012 6:26:34 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: beethovenfan

I think obama is way past “borderline” ...


8 posted on 02/24/2012 6:26:39 PM PST by Ken522
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To: Seizethecarp; M.K. Borders

I agree, BPD Central is the best website for those coping with loved ones who have this unbearable disorder.

And to the OP here, if there is any danger that the Borderline person in your life is a threat to him/herself or others, please call 911.

I know first hand about their psychotic breaks.

Good luck and prayers to you and your afflicted loved one.


9 posted on 02/24/2012 6:32:02 PM PST by KJC1
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To: M.K. Borders

Marsha Linehan is a leading authority on BPD. Her workbooks are practical and written for an average (i.e., not academic) audience. She is a clinical psychologist with a solid research and practice background.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 6:33:32 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: Seizethecarp
"SAVE YOURSELF FIRST! "

Yep, get out at all costs. As soon as possible.

If you have kids get them out of there unless you want them to be monsters too. It's passes from generation to generation.

11 posted on 02/24/2012 6:34:35 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: berdie

later


12 posted on 02/24/2012 6:41:25 PM PST by berdie
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To: Mariner

I am dealing with a daughter who has this. Every day is a challenge. This had been the longest two years of my life. Three if you count the other things leading up to this.


13 posted on 02/24/2012 6:43:39 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Most Conservative in the Primary, the Republican Nominee in the General.)
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To: M.K. Borders

Is it alcohol or drug related?


14 posted on 02/24/2012 6:47:51 PM PST by rickyc
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To: Mariner; M.K. Borders; mel

http://www.bpdcentral.com/bks/swoe.php

Chapter 8:
Developing a Safety Plan

What to do about out-of-control rages, physical abuse, self-mutilation, and

suicide threats

If you are suicidal

Out-of-control children

Chapter 9:
Protecting Children from BPD Behavior

Borderlines as parents

Consequences of BPD behavior on children

Nine practical suggestions for protecting children

Divorce and parental alienation


15 posted on 02/24/2012 6:50:35 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: beethovenfan

I don’t think the book on ‘megalomaniacal-sociopathic-narcissism’ is out yet..


16 posted on 02/24/2012 7:03:13 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Seizethecarp

wow, thanks i am going to get that
thanks
melissa


17 posted on 02/24/2012 7:57:01 PM PST by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: Mariner

Yes.

Mantra:
“I am not required to participate in my own abuse.”

You may experience guilt and you may do so for a long time. But it is not your fault and you cannot change these types of behaviors,

Unfortunately, I believe it is genetic, so subsequent generations may manifest the same pathology without even having ever known the ancestor. In each family, there are enabelers and those who finally realize they must leave. The enabelers can be every bit as destructive, to both themselves and others, as the primary BPD sufferer.

The ones who leave may experience PTSD.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 8:05:32 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
I don’t think the book on ‘megalomaniacal-sociopathic-narcissism’ is out yet..

too bad I was looking forward to reading about my ex personal trainer. What a scary whack job he turned out to be. Of course Obama is the most shining example. Saving words I just refer to both as evil. Pretty covers the list and its impact on others.

19 posted on 02/24/2012 8:11:14 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: reformedliberal
I had a vocal coach that is borderline. I fired her and boy you can imagine the 'fun' that ensued from that action. We have common friends who work and associate with us both.

Somehow she has either conned them well or they are just in grave denial either way she has them both on puppet strings when it comes to 'punishing' me from a distance. It is hard but I just keep choosing the high road. I can't believe how blind people are to all her lies and manipulations.

20 posted on 02/24/2012 8:17:26 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: M.K. Borders

My mother was one, so I can tell you there is no treatment or cure. I recommend that you and the other members of your family get therapy to cope with this - you have all my sympathy.


21 posted on 02/24/2012 8:19:11 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: M.K. Borders

Good Luck and Prayers.


22 posted on 02/24/2012 8:22:56 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: kabumpo

I am sorry to hear this. May I ask what outstanding characteristics she displayed? Very damaging to have a Mother with BPD. My heart goes out to you and your family.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 8:24:13 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Quix

Care to weigh in?


24 posted on 02/24/2012 8:55:57 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Mariner
“SAVE YOURSELF FIRST! “

Yep, get out at all costs. As soon as possible.

If you have kids get them out of there unless you want them to be monsters too. It's passes from generation to generation”

I wholeheartedly agree. It will be the hardest thing you ever do but do it NOW. BPD is incurable.

25 posted on 02/24/2012 8:56:10 PM PST by Cyman
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To: GOP Poet; kabumpo

I know you addressed your post to Kabumpo, but thought I’d respond as well since my mother has BPD. In short, she made life hell and always uncertain. She showed no loyalty whatsoever as a mother. She would believe the word of a total stranger over my word, she would call my friends and people I was dating to tell them how horrible I was and to threaten them if they ever saw me again. As a child, when I got injured, she would deny medical treatment and accuse me of lying...only for doctors to later end up putting a cast on me, etc. As an adult, she called my place of employment to badmouth me in an attempt to railroad my career. It never ended until I ended it and cut off contact.

I haven’t had contact with her in years. Believe it or not, I still love her, but I know she is profoundly mentally ill and I can’t have her in my life.

Those with BPD are poison. By nature, they attack the ones they “love” most. In their twisted way of thinking, they can’t stand to lose you, so they f*ck up your entire world thinking that all you’ll have left is them. That’s the meat of BPD.


26 posted on 02/24/2012 9:00:21 PM PST by KJC1
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To: GOP Poet; kabumpo
"May I ask what outstanding characteristics she displayed?"

Wait, let me guess. You get the crap beat out of you, but then when you react or attempt to diffuse or defend yourself YOU get accused of "starting it," "overreacting," or "making a scene."

Been there. They can be men, also.

27 posted on 02/24/2012 9:01:45 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: M.K. Borders

(202) 456-1414

ask for michelle. she probably has the most experience dealing with various mental disorders


28 posted on 02/24/2012 9:02:14 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: KJC1
Mine's not that bad.

From everything I've read though, I have great difficulty believing that the root of it is "fear," and "low self-esteem." All of the experts say that, but something in my gut keeps saying, "you've never lived here, you don't know." They are true emotional terrorists.

29 posted on 02/24/2012 9:09:39 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Sure.

Alas, am falling asleep in my chair so it will have to wait until tomorrow.

Otherwise, I’d be more incoherent than usual.

LOL.

Been listening to last night’s Linda Moulton Howe’s C2C reports on the sounds pervading various locales around the world and now a record dolphin stranding.

Wheee.

Night night.


30 posted on 02/24/2012 9:16:37 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: oprahstheantichrist
They are true emotional terrorists.

That's the truth! I think the name of this disorder throws people off as well. Logically, they think "Borderline Personality Disorder" means a person is on the "Border" of having a disorder. They don't realize the "Border" means the "Border" between neurosis and psychosis and that afflicted persons experience both.

31 posted on 02/24/2012 9:30:31 PM PST by KJC1
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To: KJC1

bump for tomorrow...


32 posted on 02/24/2012 9:56:05 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: beethovenfan
Is this for Obama?

No, Barry is Narcissistic Personality Disorder all the way.

33 posted on 02/24/2012 10:01:28 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Mine wasn’t as terrible as Kgc’s mother. It was more like “you’re so wonderful and perfect” changing without warning to a vicious attack. I came to understand that her praise was as toxic as her criticism, so I stopped telling her anything about my life.
When I was a child I absolutely walked on eggshells because of her mood swings. Anything could set her off.


34 posted on 02/24/2012 10:11:24 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Mine wasn’t as terrible as Kgc’s mother. It was more like “you’re so wonderful and perfect” changing without warning to a vicious attack. I came to understand that her praise was as toxic as her criticism, so I stopped telling her anything about my life.
When I was a child I absolutely walked on eggshells because of her mood swings. Anything could set her off.


35 posted on 02/24/2012 10:12:26 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: KJC1
Wow. Just wow KJC1. I am so sorry to hear this is what you have experienced. What an amazingly strong person you are to do what you needed to do too to take care of yourself.

I also appreciate your sharing your knowledge about BPD too. It is helpful to me as someone who came in contact with someone such as this in my professional world.

36 posted on 02/24/2012 11:23:27 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: oprahstheantichrist
Wow. that is EXACTLY what happened to me when I quit my vocal coach. The person began being very verbally and emotionally abusive (as I began to be more of a friend.) I immediately told her this was inappropriate and I left the relationship. She tried to turn it on me and try to accuse ME of her behavior. I knew at that point I was dealing with a psycho and cut off all contact.

Unfortunately the BPD person has successfully conned other important colleagues into her mind games and tells them she can't tolerate having me in any group that she is apart of. Sad part is they spinelessly let her have her way. Also they don't seem to see how sick she is.

37 posted on 02/24/2012 11:32:37 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: kabumpo

Ouch my dear a million hugs sent your way. Just as I mentioned to K, you too are so strong to make it through all of this. My mom was also very abusive. Yet in her situation, I don’t know the diagnosis, but I understand the pain and the scars it leaves. We are all strong people to make it through there is nothing quite like having your first caregiver abuse you. To come through to the other side shows great strength.


38 posted on 02/24/2012 11:38:12 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Ping to self for a neighbor guy of ours. Once they had their baby she has let him hold her 3 or 4 times only. (She’s 6 months+ now). She does let him change the diapers though!

She was beating on him, pots, etc. and he called 9-11. So she kicked him out. Now is going through the divorce. And put a restraining order on HIM!

The gal is nuts - I was wondering if it had something to do with having the baby. She seemed normal enough to me. (They both did).


39 posted on 02/24/2012 11:38:56 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: oprahstheantichrist
They are true emotional terrorists.

Well said. Nail on the head right there!

40 posted on 02/24/2012 11:42:23 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Quix
"Otherwise, I’d be more incoherent than usual."

You mean more coherent, right? ;)

Thanks in advance. Interesting thread here.

The "weird sounds" thing doesn't bother me at all. Paul said in Romans that the "creation groans," so it's just like He said. So I'm okay with it.

41 posted on 02/25/2012 2:09:04 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

LOL.

INDEED.

Still pondering.

Maybe after next sleep jump.


42 posted on 02/25/2012 2:22:53 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: M.K. Borders

Book Mark


43 posted on 02/25/2012 2:28:04 AM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Agree about the creation groaning aspect.

However, it is likely that it is the globalists

dinking around with and testing their technologies for staging

‘supernatural’ manifestations pretending to be God etc.

Many such sounds are evidently true sounds setting off car horns etc.

But some are not—triggering ‘sounds’ in the auditory neurons and brain centers while nearby other people and animals nearby hear nothing.

Yes, they DO have technologies that will do all that.


44 posted on 02/25/2012 2:48:46 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: 21twelve; kabumpo; GOP Poet
"I was wondering if it had something to do with having the baby."

In a strictly hormonal sense? Doubt it.

I'm going to speculate that your neighbor has a decent income. One kid gets her 20% where I live.

The only thing more important to them than raw power itself is moral superiority and the intimidation she can wield as it's proprietor. The Birth Process bestows an Assumed Moral High Ground with the title of "Mother."

Prior to giving birth though, displays of her true personality carried risk of loss (what if baby dies?). After the baby's born though, hubby's tied to her F.O.R.E.V.E.R.

Doubtless he saw hints of it beforehand but dismissed it. What else do you do if she's big as a house with your kid?

Unusual that she ditched him so early on, though. Usually they wait a few years till they have at least two to torment him with. She must bore easily, and is in pursuit of fresh prey.

45 posted on 02/25/2012 3:03:09 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Quix
Hadn't thought of that. Have believers heard it as well as non?

Hey, you're supposed to be asleep! (as am I).

46 posted on 02/25/2012 3:07:56 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Yeah, wellll, my sinuses are about clear enough to go back to bed . . . after I get a little sleepier again first. LOL.

I don’t know of any breakdown or even data collection re believer/nonbeliever on the sounds, yet.

My impression is that there is none.

To the degree that it is technology based vs spiritual . . . I’d think there would not be a distinction between believers and unbelievers. Just a guess.

RE your #45 post—I greatly agree.

. . . fresh prey . . . indeed. LOL.

Though I don’t think they consciously see it as that, at all.

More . . . desperately seeking connection, friendship, intimacy, acceptance, validation . . . etc. of course with all the horrific baggage from typically horrific levels of ATTACHMENT DISORDER.

And, paradoxically, with tons of self-loathing on the one hand and exaggerated, inflated notions of their own lofty ‘better than others’ evaluation of themselves . . . their oscillations between the self-loathing and haughty intolerance of deviation from their expectations can be . . . very jarring, to put it mildly.


47 posted on 02/25/2012 3:19:41 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: KJC1; 21twelve; kabumpo; GOP Poet; Quix
Actually there are many in the Spirit-filled ("Charismatic"-type) Christian community that discern the whole thing as strictly a spiritual issue in that the person is indwelt with, or is heavily influenced by, a foul spirit from hell itself.

"Posessed?" Not at all, as the person has full control of their mind and actions. It's just that this foul spirit tempts them to torment vulnerable people and they give in EVERY time. They get a sick gratification from it.

It's an addiction really, except that their Drug of Choice is .... power. As with substance abuse, a tolorance grows, in that a repeat of the previous harassment no longer yields the same thrill. So it gradually gets worse.

Most if not all are the most brilliant manipulators you will ever see in your life, even though some are not even that smart.

Oh, and they have "radar" for the weak and/or vulnerable, another reason they usually yearn to be parents (not always though).

For convenience this spirit is labeled the "spirit of Jezebel," after the control-freak wife of King Ahab in the Old Testement, but it's neither male nor female, and manifests in both. Bottom line, if you are in this person's life you had BETTER submit or the consequences are horrific.

After a confrontation with her, God's prophet Elijah is suicidal (he is then restored, praise be to God). Fast-forward-to-today, if you are trapped under the thumb of this spirit folks often want to just die (ask me how I know....). When the flare-ups occur it feels like you're on the ground (emotionally) with a boot on your neck, barely able to breathe.

This is a long read, but this lady has an interesting grasp on it, and approaches it from a different angle than just the psychological. Which could be a lifesaver if you or someone you know are indeed...trapped.

http://sweety.com/Jezebel.pdf

48 posted on 02/25/2012 4:05:06 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Quix

Okay that last paragraph is REALLY interesting, but my brain is fried. Sleep, now, soon, must. Will comment tomorrow.


49 posted on 02/25/2012 4:08:09 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: M.K. Borders

BPD are nothing but immature bullies without any level of self-discipline. Punch them in the nose and they tend to shut the hell up. People that cower to them tend to be their victims. The only thing you need to know is to stand up to them, call them out on their bad behaviors, and discipline them when they act out. Do so in a rational and mature way. Treat them like little children that need discipline because that is all they are.


50 posted on 02/25/2012 7:49:02 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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