Posted on 03/16/2012 8:13:09 AM PDT by Altariel
“Alas, the breed is short-lived - the only draw back “
They didn’t use to be.
In the late 90s, two particular, very popular bloodlines became *the* ‘in sires’ and DCM became endemic.
One ‘dog of death’ is syill being bred via ‘pupsicles’ despite the fact that he was homozygous for DCM and died of it.
The other two dogs are still siring pups, post mortem.
My last Dobermann Arthur, lived to be 14 and was never sick a day in his life.
His best buddy Merlin died 2 years before him and she was at least 4 when I got her and she lived another 8 or 9 years, too.
Hypothyroidism is now a given in the breed and you really should read Dr Jean Dodds book about the epidemic.
http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/HEMOPET.HTM
If you haven’t already, please have your dog tested for hypothyroidism and DCM.
http://www.vetgen.com/canine-dob_panel_testing.html
Sadly, it’s up to those of us who love the breed *without* the titles who will have to fight to return them to their normal expected life spans.
Thanks!
O'Leni
It’s sad that dogs - especially larger breeds - don’t live long. Mostly because of exactly this issue.
Since our dogs tend to live maybe beyond just 10 years, show people (in particular) are in a rush to breed what they have (especially females). Regardless of what may be known about their genetic background, and without knowledge that the dog will have the condition in question himself. So our dogs are bred at the age of 2 or even less, and when those dogs become 6, they develop a bad condition. Now it’s KNOWN that those dogs are bad, but it’s already in the gene pool Even if they had the ethics to stop breeding the dogs who are sick, they’ve already started, so the genetic downturn continues.
At least horses and others live so much longer (even if they can be bred very early) that we can find out these problems faster. But really, any animal with a questionable genetic inheritance should not be bred.
Wonderful story! :)
A famous judge of Dobermanns was once asked if he’d use a particular stud, given the chance, knowing full well the dog was throwing DCM positive pups like mad and he said *yes*.
They only have to live long enough to get a title, hit the specialties, get ‘famous’ and start breeding.
The DCM test results are online for everyone to see and 99% of the positive dogs, if you trace their pedigree, have one or both of the studs I mentioned.
The owners of the stored ‘pupsicles’ know this and still send it out for $1000 a straw..and up.
For 37 years I’ve watched this great breed slide to hell.
It breaks my heart that I can not even slow down the descent.
[ironically, now they’re importing Euro Dobes to “fix” the health issues and are even considering breeding back in the old, once nearly extinct German Pinscher which was one of the foundation breeds]
Sure took ‘em long enough.
:-\
[and you *know* my opinion of the ‘modern’ GSD]
I was trying to be optimistic. :D
I’m sure many of these biggies in the game couldn’t care less about their dogs having the disease. They won’t tell anyone, either.
Sometimes I do think, in the German Shepherd Club, there are a few people who are trying to make a difference, publicly. But I think they are few and are overwhelmed by the majority status quo. Here’s an example.
The “GS Review” is often mostly just a gigantic set of advertizements for everything, including grandiose memorial ads for not-famous dogs. Not too long ago, someone on the staff - maybe the editor, maybe someone else - made the public suggestion, in writing, that maybe some of these memorials could include the cause of death. It may even have been stated that only those stating such would be printed, I don’t recall exactly.
In any case, here we are maybe 5 years later, and still I hardly ever see a reason for death. Lots of these dogs are awfully young (I mean 5 or so), which really makes you wonder what the heck went wrong.
The Review more boldly prints oddball non-AKC taboo subjects now (degenerative myelopathy, Schutzhund work, herding info), but I really don’t see serious action.
I suspect it’s again because the majority are not interested, only in using their studs regardless how sick they are.
You should look at a copy of The Doberman Digest.
There’s maybe 2-5 useful articles and 200 huge glossy pages of folks pimping their dogs.
I used to read it for the information.
Now it’s only good for artistic reference material.
I’ve bought old copies off of eBay.
Imagine my horror when the winter edition of 2000 was almost completely devoted to the bloodlines with the “killer genes”.
I just wanted to cry.
I dearly hope the minority somehow fix the GSD issues.
The breed is just too nice to continue on its present course.
On http://dobequest.org *some* people list their dog’s cause of death but not nearly enough.
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