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To: Moonman62; Nifster
"It's amazing what can be found in a pawn shop these days."

Yup, but I got mine direct from the source. The banquet at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago was a lot of fun.

"That excludes muon cold fusion which really does exist, yet hucksters like yourself never mention."

The only "hucksters" on this thread are you and Nifster, proclaiming that "non-muon" LANR doesn't exist because it contradicts existing theory. THAT is nothing more than pseudo-science. REAL science is about finding and explaining "anomalies" (as you are so fond of putting it) based on replicable experimental data. EVERY approach to cold fusion that I know of has been replicated...some of them multiple times. The Pons/Fleischmann electrochemical approach has been verified MANY times. Arata's gas-loaded approach has likewise been verified multiple times. And in many different variations (Piantelli, Ahearn, Miley, Celani, McKubre and more).

Heck, one NASA study replicated Palladium-deuterium gas loading excess heat with an off-the-shelf COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE DEVICE (palladium membrane hydrogen purifier) by Fralick, et al, at NASA's Glenn Research Center IN 1989!!. The experiment is so simple and direct that it is virtually impossible that it was "wrong" somehow.

And yet, that data was buried because of the fraudulent suppression of LANR by physicists incapable of doing electrochemistry correctly, and the continuing attacks on any funding and new research by certain parties like Parks and his coven.

47 posted on 04/01/2012 4:52:34 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

I am not a huckster...You have misstated my comments completely. What I have suggested is that the folks making grand claims of low temp low pressure fusion have yet to produce data was can be independently verified (including such things as reproducibility of the actual set up).

There have been continuous claims of “deliverables” on various dates which have come and gone.

And again I suggest simply that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. That has not been resented. Will it ever be? who knows time will tell


51 posted on 04/02/2012 12:00:37 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Wonder Warthog
Yup, but I got mine direct from the source. The banquet at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago was a lot of fun.

It's still weird that you had to pay for an award.

52 posted on 04/02/2012 6:48:29 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Heck, one NASA study replicated Palladium-deuterium gas loading excess heat with an off-the-shelf COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE DEVICE (palladium membrane hydrogen purifier) by Fralick, et al, at NASA's Glenn Research Center IN 1989!!. The experiment is so simple and direct that it is virtually impossible that it was "wrong" somehow.

And yet after 20+ years, NASA isn't using this incredibly simple setup as an energy source.

that data was buried because of the fraudulent suppression of LANR by physicists incapable of doing electrochemistry correctly, and the continuing attacks on any funding and new research by certain parties like Parks and his coven.

Oh that's right, an agency of the most powerful government in the world is being blocked by a conspiracy of incompetents. No wonder you had to pay for your award.

53 posted on 04/02/2012 6:58:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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